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Would it work

Initial Creation Date: Jul 13, 2021
Published: Jul 13 at 6:22
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Simply put : Buy-out Byron; Trade Drouin to ARZ and over pay to move him and get him a new start.
- Put a move on Landeskog that Avs can't match;
- Give enough to Wennberg to sign with the team;
- Offer Suter a one year deal at 3.5M$ so he can get some of the money he lost and a new start with a team that got the the finals;
- Sign Gaudreau for a year for Depth Chart;
- Move up Poehling to the NHL.

Down side, is that you have ony 8.4M$ in cap space next year to signe Suzuki, Evans and Romanov. Hopefully they can sign at entry level contracts (around 3 to 3.5M$/yr for Suzuki and Romanov, maybe 1.2M$ for Evans).. So they'll need to be creative like Tampa Bay and have "selective surgeries" on higher paid players to keep them off for a few weeks and get more cap space .. But it can be worked out. Tampa Bay are already ligning up the "operations" in order to have 2 or 3 players on LITR list as of puck drop for next season.. Why not MTL?

ALso thinking that Armia and Danault may sign somewhere else. Danault already rejected 5M$/yr per 6 years; Armia is generating lots of interest, so he may get a good pay day from another team who have the space like NJ, Detroit or others.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Olofsson, Jacob3$925,000
Harris, Jordan3$925,000
Henrikson, Arvid2$925,000
Stapley, Brett2$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Poehling, Ryan2$1,250,000
Pezzetta, Michael2$800,000
McNiven, Michael2$800,000
Lucchini, Jacob1$800,000
Leskinen, Otto2$925,000
Lehkonen, Artturi2$2,850,000
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi3$3,500,000
Fleury, Cale3$900,000
Blandisi, Joseph3$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Belzile, Alex1$800,000
Lindgren, Charlie1$800,000
Olofsson, Gustav3$925,000
Perry, Corey1$1,000,000
Wennberg, Alexander4$4,500,000
Landeskog, Gabriel5$8,500,000
Suter, Ryan1$3,500,000
Gaudreau, Frédérick1$950,000
Trades
MTL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (ARI)
ARZ Keep their best 2nd round pick and give MTL a few spots up.
ARI
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Teasdale, Joël
  3. Fairbrother, Gianni
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
  6. 2021 4th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Take the hit, provide some prospects to ARZ with 3rd and 4th rounder vs the 2nd rounds picks for both moving up a few spots for the habs.
MTL
    Expansion draft - they may go for Allen, but here I'm thinking they may want Chiariot if he's unprotected
    SEA
    1. Chiarot, Ben
    Buyouts
    • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
    • Paul Byron: $533,333
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    MTL
    TBL
    ARI
    WSH
    STL
    VGK
    PHI
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2023
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$81,609,703$597,561$1,475,000-$109,703
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Landeskog, Gabriel
    $8,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Caufield, Cole
    $880,833
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    $4,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Wennberg, Alexander
    $4,500,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Anderson, Josh
    $5,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Lehkonen, Artturi
    $2,850,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $6,500,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    $1,250,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    $750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Perry, Corey
    $1,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MTL
    Edmundson, Joel
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Suter, Ryan
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $6,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Allen, Jake
    $2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    $1,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    $894,167
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Gaudreau, Frédérick
    $950,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
    MTL
    Guhle, Kaiden
    $894,167 ($0)
    LD
    RFA - 3
    MTL
    Ouellet, Xavier
    $737,500 ($0)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Belzile, Alex
    $800,000 ($0)
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Mysak, Jan
    $850,833 ($0)
    LW
    RFA - 3

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    Jul 13 at 6:24
    #1
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    I was a big fan of Wennberg in CLB but 4,5M it's too much for him
    Jul 13 at 6:29
    #2
    CapMean
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    Everything about this is cringe. Just stop.
    Jul 13 at 6:34
    #3
    Thread Starter
    Yall gotta Chill
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    Quoting: StuStizzle
    Everything about this is cringe. Just stop.


    Don't like it and can't write something intelligent, move on troll.
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    Jul 13 at 6:38
    #4
    You know nothing JS
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    No. Nope. Nada. Niet. Non. None of this works.
    Jul 13 at 6:39
    #5
    Mark
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    Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
    Don't like it and can't write something intelligent, move on troll.


    Agreed. The person actually took time out of their day to make fun of your team. What a joke. So many trolls on this site.
    Jul 13 at 6:45
    #6
    Thread Starter
    Yall gotta Chill
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    Quoting: mastersp4
    I was a big fan of Wennberg in CLB but 4,5M it's too much for him


    Point taken. But unfortunately MTL need to overpay for UFAs all the time. Pressure of playing here. I'd move on him at 3M or 3.5M$ but wonder if other teams would offer the same .. So I'd over pay to get him for a few years. He's a good player, Anderson knows him, so it may be good chemistry to put them together. At 6'2" he's also a good size to help Anderson push the other team around. We need bigger centermen. While I'd love to keep Danault, Habs will need to over pay much more for him. Wennberg would fit well with Ducharme's style.
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    Jul 13 at 6:51
    #7
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    Edited Jul 13 at 6:58
    Quoting: jpsnow13
    No. Nope. Nada. Niet. Non. None of this works.


    This from a guy who gave Kotkaniemi and Lehkonen less than 3M$ when entry level contracts are pretty much set for players like KK at around 3-3.5 and Lek made 2.4M$ and seen as a valued player.. So you'll pay him less. Then trade Drouin for Zucker.. like the Pens are gonna say "Wow! good move!" as they get nothing out of this when they are trying to figure out some cap space.

    That "No. Nope. Nada. Niet. Non. None of this works" must've come from the player's Agents and Pitts GM on your moves.
    Jul 13 at 7:49
    #8
    You know nothing JS
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    Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
    This from a guy who gave Kotkaniemi and Lehkonen less than 3M$ when entry level contracts are pretty much set for players like KK at around 3-3.5 and Lek made 2.4M$ and seen as a valued player.. So you'll pay him less. Then trade Drouin for Zucker.. like the Pens are gonna say "Wow! good move!" as they get nothing out of this when they are trying to figure out some cap space.

    That "No. Nope. Nada. Niet. Non. None of this works" must've come from the player's Agents and Pitts GM on your moves.


    Nice deflection. Nice for you for recognizing my AGM is a more interesting subjet to discuss here than this nonsense.

    You are just dumping drouin, throwing a bunch of nothing while robbing Arizona of the 37th overall AFTER THEY FORFEIT THEIR 1ST ROUND PICK TO THE LEAGUE.

    Yes, this is wrong in all languages.
    Jul 14 at 10:28
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    CapMean
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    Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
    This from a guy who gave Kotkaniemi and Lehkonen less than 3M$ when entry level contracts are pretty much set for players like KK at around 3-3.5 and Lek made 2.4M$ and seen as a valued player.. So you'll pay him less. Then trade Drouin for Zucker.. like the Pens are gonna say "Wow! good move!" as they get nothing out of this when they are trying to figure out some cap space.

    That "No. Nope. Nada. Niet. Non. None of this works" must've come from the player's Agents and Pitts GM on your moves.


    LOOOOL, you're clueless. That's not trolling, it's just a fact. Do you even know what an "entry level contract" is?

    I'd look at a player like Elias Lindholm whose performance was way more consistent on his entry level deal than KK was and got $2.7M x 2 years on his second deal, so I'd expect KK to be around $2.5M x 2 years. And why would Lehkonen get a raise in a flat cap world when his offensive production and overall usage have both gone down?
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    Jul 14 at 11:20
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    You know nothing JS
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    Quoting: StuStizzle
    LOOOOL, you're clueless. That's not trolling, it's just a fact. Do you even know what an "entry level contract" is?

    I'd look at a player like Elias Lindholm whose performance was way more consistent on his entry level deal than KK was and got $2.7M x 2 years on his second deal, so I'd expect KK to be around $2.5M x 2 years. And why would Lehkonen get a raise in a flat cap world when his offensive production and overall usage have both gone down?


    Hi there,

    Nice to see someone using comparables, or just reality in general.

    My personnal number is 2.8M for 2 or 3 years, based on a player he probably never heard about , Roope Hintz. recent signing. similar profile, better season production, similar playoff production. Only got 3.15M AAV.

    Lindholm's second to last contract is a bit old, but at least your method of evaluation was right. i would add that anyway the focus should be the real salary on the last year, as a reference for arbitration.

    Cheers
     
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