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Created by: SakuThornton
Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 14, 2021
Published: Jul. 14, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$6,500,000
5$2,750,000
2$1,250,000
3$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
1$900,000
2$2,200,000
2$1,500,000
1$950,000
Trades
1.
CAR
    Expansion
    2.
    CAR
    1. Burns, Brent ($2,000,000 retained)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
    Logo of the CAR
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    Logo of the ANA
    Logo of the CAR
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$69,939,417$0$1,037,500$11,560,583
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $8,460,250$8,460,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RW
    RFA - 3
    $950,000$950,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    $900,000$900,000
    C
    UFA
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $725,000$725,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,025,000$4,025,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $3,280,000$3,280,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    $900,000$900,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $750,000$750,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    G
    UFA - 2

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    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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    SJ accepts.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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    You can retain as much as you want, Canes are sending Suzuki for Burns. They're not interested in keeping him until age 40.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
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    SJ accepts.


    of course they do - Canes never send the offer tho lol
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.
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    I'm thinking it's more and more likely that they actually protect Skjei. I don't think they want to lose two of their top four defenseman (Hamilton, Skjei) in the same off-season and it's never a guarantee that you can get replacements via FA. He was playing 24 minutes a night in the playoffs, whereas Bean was only playing around 14. I could see Brind'Amour pulling for Skjei. It makes more sense to protect Bean, but I wonder if they end up protecting Skjei in order to keep the core of their defense intact,
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:25 p.m.
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    I'm thinking it's more and more likely that they actually protect Skjei. I don't think they want to lose two of their top four defenseman (Hamilton, Skjei) in the same off-season and it's never a guarantee that you can get replacements via FA. He was playing 24 minutes a night in the playoffs, whereas Bean was only playing around 14. It makes more sense to protect Bean, but I wonder if they end up protecting Skjei in order to keep the core of their defense intact,


    This makes a lot of sense as well. Who do you think gets chosen by Seattle in that case?
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    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: SakuThornton
    This makes a lot of sense as well. Who do you think gets chosen by Seattle in that case?


    Depending on the forward protections, I could see Bean, Foegele, or Geekie being selected by SEA.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    You can retain as much as you want, Canes are sending Suzuki for Burns. They're not interested in keeping him until age 40.


    his contract ends at 39 not 40... lol
    but he was still at 35 our best D man putting in 26 min a night and playing more and more in the D zone since the money man Karlsson couldn't be trusted in the defensive zone, and he still put up respectable numbers. if a team sets burns up 2nd pairing plays him 18-22 min a game power play no penalty kill and more offensive zone face offs I could easily see him being productive for 3 more years if not the full 4. you have to consider the guy is a workout beast and still faster than most NHL D man has been playing with a strong iron man streak and does not have history of injuries that could slow him down. I don't want to lose him so what about karlsson for suzuki and we retain 4 mil.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    his contract ends at 39 not 40... lol
    but he was still at 35 our best D man putting in 26 min a night and playing more and more in the D zone since the money man Karlsson couldn't be trusted in the defensive zone, and he still put up respectable numbers. if a team sets burns up 2nd pairing plays him 18-22 min a game power play no penalty kill and more offensive zone face offs I could easily see him being productive for 3 more years if not the full 4. you have to consider the guy is a workout beast and still faster than most NHL D man has been playing with a strong iron man streak and does not have history of injuries that could slow him down. I don't want to lose him so what about karlsson for suzuki and we retain 4 mil.


    I get it and those are fair points but still not something Canes would be interested in if the asking price is Suzuki, for Burns or Karlsson. Suzuki is our second best prospect and a first rounder from 2 years ago. There's no reason for Canes to make that deal when they can go to FA and find somebody to play top 4 minutes without giving up assets.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: villenash
    I'm thinking it's more and more likely that they actually protect Skjei. I don't think they want to lose two of their top four defenseman (Hamilton, Skjei) in the same off-season and it's never a guarantee that you can get replacements via FA. He was playing 24 minutes a night in the playoffs, whereas Bean was only playing around 14. I could see Brind'Amour pulling for Skjei. It makes more sense to protect Bean, but I wonder if they end up protecting Skjei in order to keep the core of their defense intact,


    Definitely get them not wanting to lose 2/4 top 4 guys, but I think they should still protect Bean. Skjei is slightly overpriced for what he is (not by as much as some ppl like to say but still a little much for a 4D) and Bean still has a much higher ceiling. He had flashes of it in his first 10-15 games and I think a full offseason and regular role with Pesce starting next season could really do him wonders in his improvement. I also don't think RF would take Skjei. He didn't bring him over so I don't think there's any attachment like there is with him drafting Bean and I don't think he wants to take on his big contract. I could see him taking Fast or Foegele (unless we move him before ED) if we protect Bean.
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    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    I get it and those are fair points but still not something Canes would be interested in if the asking price is Suzuki, for Burns or Karlsson. Suzuki is our second best prospect and a first rounder from 2 years ago. There's no reason for Canes to make that deal when they can go to FA and find somebody to play top 4 minutes without giving up assets.


    That's the thing, the drop-off in quality beyond Hamilton in UFA is enormous. The 2nd tier of defensemen available consists of Martinez (likely staying in Vegas), Barrie, Goligoski, Savard, Larsson, Oleksiak.
    There isn't really anyone available who can play a similar all-around role like Hamilton did, and Brett Pesce can't contribute much to offense.
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    Jul. 14, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: SakuThornton
    That's the thing, the drop-off in quality beyond Hamilton in UFA is enormous. The 2nd tier of defensemen available consists of Martinez (likely staying in Vegas), Barrie, Goligoski, Savard, Larsson, Oleksiak.
    There isn't really anyone available who can play a similar all-around role like Hamilton did, and Brett Pesce can't contribute much to offense.


    The Canes would be silly to try to replace Hamilton with one player - like you said it can't really be done. Burns and Karlsson can't really replace him either at this point in their careers. Canes are better off getting a couple of very solid dmen instead of making a crazy deal like this. They already have Slavin and Pesce which are anchors, Bean has high offensive upside still, Skjei is a very solid second pair guy. Even after losing potentially Skjei and Dougie I'd be fine signing Oleksiak and Larsson for example rather than doing something like this. Suzuki is just a no go at the end of the day in a deal like this.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 2:54 p.m.
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    Canes get a good deal here. sharks not so sure. Retaining 2x4 is a lot for really just one okay prospect
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: papishark
    Canes get a good deal here. sharks not so sure. Retaining 2x4 is a lot for really just one okay prospect


    Huge Sharks fan here. I think shedding Burns works out very well for both sides. It allows Karlsson to really take hold of the top position on the right side and allows room for an injection of youth on the blueline. Retention is worth it IMO.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 3:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: SakuThornton
    Huge Sharks fan here. I think shedding Burns works out very well for both sides. It allows Karlsson to really take hold of the top position on the right side and allows room for an injection of youth on the blueline. Retention is worth it IMO.

    I’m just judging based off the Keith trade, burns at 0 retention has to have some value.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 6:39 p.m.
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    I’m just judging based off the Keith trade, burns at 0 retention has to have some value.


    Burns has 2 more years than Keith and at a $2.5M higher cap hit. He has zero trade value without retention.
    Jul. 14, 2021 at 7:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: SakuThornton
    Burns has 2 more years than Keith and at a $2.5M higher cap hit. He has zero trade value without retention.


    Hes also an actual good player? Keith is horrible
     
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