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Lets make a deal cbj

Created by: Eberles_Backcheck
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2021
Published: Jul. 15, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
Oilers aren't getting Laine, mainly because I don't think Holland has the stones to make a big trade like that.
But I've always thought Edmonton needs that pure shooter to play with 97 or 29. Someone who can get the puck off quick and accurate. Not many guys who can do that. Tarasenko is one, but that's way too risky. Just doing this purely to see what value CBJ fans think they'd need back. I'll give it my best guess.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Laine, Patrik6$7,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Koekkoek, Slater1$850,000
Barrie, Tyson4$4,500,000
Larsson, Adam4$3,750,000
Mrázek, Petr2$3,150,000
Smith, Mike1$2,000,000
Tatar, Tomas1$2,750,000
Ennis, Tyler1$750,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Laine, Patrik [RFA Rights]
CBJ
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Broberg, Philip
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer [RFA Rights]
  4. Koskinen, Mikko ($750,000 retained)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
EDM retains 50% on Koskinen and CBJ buys him out. 750K cap hit for each team.
2.
EDM
    SEA
    1. Benson, Tyler [RFA Rights]
    Buyouts
    • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
    • James Neal: $1,916,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Mikko Koskinen: $750,000 (16.67%)
    • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    PIT
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2023
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,071,968$669,339$1,307,500$428,032
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Laine, Patrik
    $7,500,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    EDM
    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    $1,175,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $5,125,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    Tatar, Tomas
    $2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Shore, Devin
    $850,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    McLeod, Ryan
    $834,167
    C
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Kassian, Zack
    $3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Ennis, Tyler
    $750,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Holloway, Dylan
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 3
    EDM
    Archibald, Josh
    $1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    $5,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Barrie, Tyson
    $4,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Mrázek, Petr
    $3,150,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Keith, Duncan
    $5,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    $3,750,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Smith, Mike
    $2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Koekkoek, Slater
    $850,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Bouchard, Evan
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    $1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    $4,167,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Lagesson, William
    $725,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Turris, Kyle
    $1,650,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    EDM
    Stalock, Alex
    $785,000 ($0)
    G
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
    #1
    Vinnylou
    Joined: Jun. 2016
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    This team has got my attention 100%. Just not crazy on the goalies. But id love it if we had this exact defense. I am big fan of it! Plus Laine. He should have been ours
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    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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    That is an absolute overpay that the Oilers should in no way consider. Laine is a top notch goal scorer but he's very inconsistent. You're getting an RFA with a similar statline to JP and offering a young cheap RHD, a young cheap RFA forward that's already playing in our top 6, our top D prospect, and a 1st. The Koskinen one is barely negative value at the point you've retained 50%.

    Oilers lose this trade by a mile. Realistically you're probably giving up something along the lines of 1st plus Broberg or Holloway. I personally wouldn't trade for Laine. Oilers biggest weakness was depth, top 6 scoring was fine.
    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
    #3
    Joined: Jul. 2020
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    I'm disgusted by that Laine trade, but I'm also disgusted at the thought of acquiring Laine so take it with a grain of salt. Feels like an overpay and Laine doesn't feel like the kind of player the Oilers should pursue: one-dimensional, expensive, and bad defensively.
    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.
    #4
    KDow88
    Joined: May 2021
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    Quoting: rpain
    That is an absolute overpay that the Oilers should in no way consider. Laine is a top notch goal scorer but he's very inconsistent. You're getting an RFA with a similar statline to JP and offering a young cheap RHD, a young cheap RFA forward that's already playing in our top 6, our top D prospect, and a 1st. The Koskinen one is barely negative value at the point you've retained 50%.

    Oilers lose this trade by a mile. Realistically you're probably giving up something along the lines of 1st plus Broberg or Holloway. I personally wouldn't trade for Laine. Oilers biggest weakness was depth, top 6 scoring was fine.


    Oilers biggest weakness was depth SCORING, outside of 97/29, and 93 on the PP, it was not there and got exposed in the playoffs... However I do agree, I would NOT want Laine, dude is a liability defensively, a cancer in the dressing room, and very selfish as a player... Would rather the Oilers use that cap space if they do get it to bring Hall back, or go after Landeskog w/o giving anything up...
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    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: KDow88
    Oilers biggest weakness was depth SCORING, outside of 97/29, and 93 on the PP, it was not there and got exposed in the playoffs... However I do agree, I would NOT want Laine, dude is a liability defensively, a cancer in the dressing room, and very selfish as a player... Would rather the Oilers use that cap space if they do get it to bring Hall back, or go after Landeskog w/o giving anything up...


    Depth scoring was issue #1 but we also had our 3rd D pairing exposed. Biggest need up front is a true 3C but a scoring winger that can play with McDavid is definitely up there. Agree I'd much rather go to the free agent market if you're spending that kind of cap anyways and not give up the assets. Hyman scares me, looks like the next Lucic/Neal/Ladd/Okposo/Eriksson but would love to see a Hall or Landeskog. If the term was short I'd have time for Hoffman as well.
    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
    #6
    Vinnylou
    Joined: Jun. 2016
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    Quoting: rpain
    That is an absolute overpay that the Oilers should in no way consider. Laine is a top notch goal scorer but he's very inconsistent. You're getting an RFA with a similar statline to JP and offering a young cheap RHD, a young cheap RFA forward that's already playing in our top 6, our top D prospect, and a 1st. The Koskinen one is barely negative value at the point you've retained 50%.

    Oilers lose this trade by a mile. Realistically you're probably giving up something along the lines of 1st plus Broberg or Holloway. I personally wouldn't trade for Laine. Oilers biggest weakness was depth, top 6 scoring was fine.


    Lol what the heck you talking about?! Who was 3rd in points on the Oilers this year?! What's the gap between 29/97 to 93. Lol. I'd take a bonafide Sniper who can just bury the biscuit who had one bad year. Good I want hungry players who want to rebound
    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: vinnylou
    Lol what the heck you talking about?! Who was 3rd in points on the Oilers this year?! What's the gap between 29/97 to 93. Lol. I'd take a bonafide Sniper who can just bury the biscuit who had one bad year. Good I want hungry players who want to rebound


    The Oilers problem offensively is that the 3rd and 4th lines are black holes. They already have the #1 PP without Laine. Trade/acquire guys in the bottom 6 who at least score as much as they give up. Our top bottom 6 scorer had 13 even strength points in a 56 game season. We have 2x 4th lines. All the teams that went deep had at least 3 lines that could produce. Laine just makes the team more top heavy and you've given up a ton of capital to do that.
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    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: rpain
    That is an absolute overpay that the Oilers should in no way consider. Laine is a top notch goal scorer but he's very inconsistent. You're getting an RFA with a similar statline to JP and offering a young cheap RHD, a young cheap RFA forward that's already playing in our top 6, our top D prospect, and a 1st. The Koskinen one is barely negative value at the point you've retained 50%.

    Oilers lose this trade by a mile. Realistically you're probably giving up something along the lines of 1st plus Broberg or Holloway. I personally wouldn't trade for Laine. Oilers biggest weakness was depth, top 6 scoring was fine.


    Quoting: SupremeBone
    I'm disgusted by that Laine trade, but I'm also disgusted at the thought of acquiring Laine so take it with a grain of salt. Feels like an overpay and Laine doesn't feel like the kind of player the Oilers should pursue: one-dimensional, expensive, and bad defensively.


    Quoting: KDow88
    Oilers biggest weakness was depth SCORING, outside of 97/29, and 93 on the PP, it was not there and got exposed in the playoffs... However I do agree, I would NOT want Laine, dude is a liability defensively, a cancer in the dressing room, and very selfish as a player... Would rather the Oilers use that cap space if they do get it to bring Hall back, or go after Landeskog w/o giving anything up...


    I agree with some things here, I do think it's an overpay also. I think if you remove Bear or Broberg it's a good deal for the Oilers. I get the reputation Laine has, but I think if you put him in a situation where he's playing with ELITE playmakers, he will not only thrive, but have a better attitude and buy in a little more. And he has a friend, former WJ linemate in JP.

    Also it may humble him a bit if he's playing with guys like McDavid and Draisaitl. No doubt in my mind he would consistently put up 40-50 goals per year.
    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.
    #9
    KDow88
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    I agree with some things here, I do think it's an overpay also. I think if you remove Bear or Broberg it's a good deal for the Oilers. I get the reputation Laine has, but I think if you put him in a situation where he's playing with ELITE playmakers, he will not only thrive, but have a better attitude and buy in a little more. And he has a friend, former WJ linemate in JP.

    Also it may humble him a bit if he's playing with guys like McDavid and Draisaitl. No doubt in my mind he would consistently put up 40-50 goals per year.


    I seriously don't see that, he's very selfish, obviously here in Winnipeg there's nothing but rumours, however when people have been comparing his attitude to Evander Kane's that's not really a ringing endorsement at all... He played with elite players in Winnipeg and was the focal point of the offence, but still wasn't good enough, needed to be Line 1 LW even tho he wouldn't give them any reason, whereas Connor would work his a$$ off and earned that spot with Scheif and Wheeler... He's just a bad egg man, slowly turning into that Evander Kane 2.0 personality..
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    Jul. 15, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
    #10
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    I agree with some things here, I do think it's an overpay also. I think if you remove Bear or Broberg it's a good deal for the Oilers. I get the reputation Laine has, but I think if you put him in a situation where he's playing with ELITE playmakers, he will not only thrive, but have a better attitude and buy in a little more. And he has a friend, former WJ linemate in JP.

    Also it may humble him a bit if he's playing with guys like McDavid and Draisaitl. No doubt in my mind he would consistently put up 40-50 goals per year.


    I don't disagree that Laine could very well put up good numbers here. Issue is this team is up against the cap and there's a decent chance nobody on the bottom 6 even hits the 20 point mark.
     
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