Why couldnt this have happened

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 of 1

Created by: Kado777

Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2021

Published: Jul. 15, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Do you think there was any chance that the Islanders would have considered a trade like this pre-buyout?

Do you think Suter and Parise would have both waived their NMC to go to a contender like NYI?

I know this may seem like a stretch, but there was talks that the Islanders and Wild were considering some sort of trade including a swap of Parise and Ladd, and with the 50% retained salary on both players it would have been the same cap hit brought in for the Islanders?

I think the biggest question mark would be for the expansion draft, and I don’t know how this would directly impact the Islanders but I assume it was cause some nightmares when considering who to protect.

Cap hit would have been around:
2021 - 13m
2022 - 13m
2023 - 7.5m
2024 - 7.5m

Instead of around:
2021 - 5m
2022 - 13m
2023 - 15m
2024 - 15m
2025 to 2028 - 1.6m

Feel free to leave some feedback, really was just trying to figure out why the wild wouldn’t have traded Suter (half of his contract) and some capital to a contender of his choice for next to nothing so we could have a cap hit of 3.75m per year for 4 years instead of the buyout.

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Suter, Ryan		4	$7,538,462
Parise, Zach		4	$7,538,462

Trades

MIN

Ladd, Andrew

NYI

Parise, Zach ($3,769,231 retained)
Suter, Ryan ($3,769,231 retained)
2021 1st round pick (PIT)

Buyouts

Zach Parise: $2,371,794
Ryan Suter: $2,371,794

Retained Salary Transactions

Zach Parise: $3,769,231 (50%)
Ryan Suter: $3,769,231 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
15	$81,500,000	$66,273,717	$0	$0	$15,226,283

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 3	Eriksson Ek, Joel $5,250,000$5,250,000 C UFA - 8
Foligno, Marcus $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Rask, Victor $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1
Greenway, Jordan $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Hartman, Ryan $1,700,000$1,700,000 C, RW UFA - 3
	Bjugstad, Nick $900,000$900,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Ladd, Andrew $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Sturm, Nico $725,000$725,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Brodin, Jonas $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 2
Soucy, Carson $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Kähkönen, Kaapo $725,000$725,000 G UFA - 1

Jul. 15, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.

Isles777

Isles7

Joined: Jun. 2019

Posts: 12,222

Likes: 5,299

Because the isles don’t want Parise/suter on the books till they’re 40…

Trotz2020 and ForsbergForVezina liked this.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.

Trotz2020

Joined: Sep. 2019

Posts: 561

Likes: 189

How do they sign barzal in two years?

ForsbergForVezina liked this.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 7:36 p.m.

ForsbergForVezina

CHI NYI

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 4,661

Likes: 2,253

This would really screw us for expansion and while the cap hits are a little more reasonable (Suter especially), those contracts still aren’t pretty, both now and going forward

Kado777 liked this.

Jul. 15, 2021 at 7:38 p.m.

Dantares24

Joined: Jul. 2021

Posts: 33

Likes: 27

I get the impression that Suter was never going to waive his no move clause as his wife is from MN and they're close to his home near Madison. Guerin possibly could've found a trading partner if he was willing to retain 50% of the salary, but 4 years left is still a long time for an aging defenseman even if he'll most likely be a decent top 4 for the next 2 years. But you'd still need Suter to waive the NMC. Don't forget cap recapture could come in to play if he retired before the end of his contract. The buyouts leave a lot of dead cap but at least Guerin knows exactly what he has to work with now.

The Parise for Ladd trade should've happened last season if it was ever going to happen. After this last year teams could see the writing on the wall that Parise wasn't happy with his situation and there was a chance he could be bought out. Now the Islanders can sign him for cheap for a year or two if they really want to.

Kado777 liked this.

Page 1 of 1

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM