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OEL Cap Dump

Created by: Lancebmx
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2021
Published: Jul. 16, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
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According to multiple people OEL is a big cap dump, just wondering what Arizona would be willing to pay to get rid of him?
I personally think he has some value but I was told other wise.
What would a good return be to take on his contract?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler4$4,500,000
Hronek, Filip4$4,500,000
Cholowski, Dennis2$925,000
Lindström, Gustav2$925,000
Smith, Givani2$925,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny2$925,000
Verbeek, Hayden2$825,000
Pearson, Chase2$825,000
Erne, Adam2$1,500,000
Rasmussen, Michael2$1,200,000
Vrána, Jakub4$5,250,000
Dunn, Vince4$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan2$3,600,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
STL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (VGK)
After seeing the return for Graves, I feel like this is good value.
2.
DET
  1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
  2. Hayton, Barrett
  3. Hill, Adin [RFA Rights]
  4. Söderström, Victor
ARI
    Is this over payment to take on his deal? What's a fair value?
    Buyouts
    • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Nick Leddy: $2,750,000 (50%)
    • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
    • Vladislav Namestnikov: $1,000,000 (50%)
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$70,809,723$0$850,000$10,690,277
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    Vrána, Jakub
    $5,250,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
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    Larkin, Dylan
    $6,100,000
    C
    UFA - 2
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    Zadina, Filip
    $894,167
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    Fabbri, Robby
    $2,950,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
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    Namestnikov, Vladislav
    $1,000,000
    RW, LW, C
    UFA - 1
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    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    $4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Pánik, Richard
    $1,375,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Nielsen, Frans
    $5,250,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Erne, Adam
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Svechnikov, Evgeny
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Rasmussen, Michael
    $1,200,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
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    Smith, Givani
    $925,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
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    Dunn, Vince
    $4,000,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
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    Hronek, Filip
    $4,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
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    Bernier, Jonathan
    $3,600,000
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    UFA - 2
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    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    $7,260,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Stecher, Troy
    $1,700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    Greiss, Thomas
    $3,600,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    DeKeyser, Danny
    $5,000,000
    LD
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    UFA - 1
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    Lindström, Gustav
    $925,000
    RD
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    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Cholowski, Dennis
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:32 a.m.
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    What's the point of taking Hill? You'll only lose him on waivers in a few months.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: Billy12Bob
    What's the point of taking Hill? You'll only lose him on waivers in a few months.


    Good young goalie in the system, I would be looking at trading Greiss, maybe sending him back to the coyotes. Might be worth while for them if they trade kuemper later.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:26 a.m.
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    Absolutely an overpay. You might get a pick but I think he’s closer to a null value.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 6:47 a.m.
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    Dunn is way better than Graves
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    Jul. 16, 2021 at 9:22 a.m.
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    Yeah I agree, I don’t think Dunn and Graves are in the same category. I can dig the trade tho, I’m in the not giving up the WSH 1st for Dunn camp tho.

    I have not been tracking at all on OEL. He’s been digressing, but is still a top 4 Dman. Is he really a cap dump?

    Edit- He will definitely be in a few years or towards the end of that contract I think.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.
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    So who is going to the Kraken?
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: RedWings86
    Yeah I agree, I don’t think Dunn and Graves are in the same category. I can dig the trade tho, I’m in the not giving up the WSH 1st for Dunn camp tho.

    I have not been tracking at all on OEL. He’s been digressing, but is still a top 4 Dman. Is he really a cap dump?

    Edit- He will definitely be in a few years or towards the end of that contract I think.


    I think with Graves going to new Jersey that's one less team that would be a potential home for Dunn, his value would decrease. I don't think there are any other teams that could trade for him without exposing a good player they wouldn't want to lose. The first four Dunn is too much I think personally.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: will9739
    So who is going to the Kraken?


    Don't matter in this exercise
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: jwg314
    Absolutely an overpay. You might get a pick but I think he’s closer to a null value.


    Ok thanks
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lancebmx
    Don't matter in this exercise


    It kind of does since you're putting all four players that are possibilities to be selected by the Kraken on the ice at the same time.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: will9739
    It kind of does since you're putting all four players that are possibilities to be selected by the Kraken on the ice at the same time.


    Ok just cause you need to know namestnikov gets selected, happy?
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lancebmx
    Ok just cause you need to know namestnikov gets selected, happy?


    No! You still have Frans Nielsen centering the 3rd line. He should be a buyout or waiver. Dude, I was just kidding around with you. smile
     
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