Forums/Armchair-GM

GM Mario

Initial Creation Date: Jul 13, 2021
Published: Jul 16 at 8:02
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aston-Reese, Zach3$1,500,000
Jankowski, Mark3$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Blueger, Teddy3$980,000
Ceci, Cody1$1,500,000
Raanta, Antti2$3,500,000
Rodrigues, Evan2$900,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. MacEwen, Zack
VAN
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. DeSmith, Casey
  3. Lafferty, Sam
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Buried
  • Juuso Riikola: $25,000 ($1,150,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,923,031$0$0$2,576,969
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Carter, Jeff
$2,636,364
C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
PIT
Jankowski, Mark
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$980,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
VAN
MacEwen, Zack
$825,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Schmidt, Nate
$5,950,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 4
Raanta, Antti
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Marino, John
$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 6
PIT
Ceci, Cody
$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Friedman, Mark
$725,000
RD
RFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Rodrigues, Evan
$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jul 16 at 8:15
#1
Banned
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 18,279
Likes: 4,643
they don't have cap to keep paying defensemen 4+ million let alone almost 6
Jul 16 at 9:30
#2
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Not a bad proposal. As a Canucks fan I hope we get more than this but I don't trust Benning to do so. Pitt wins the trade but it's not bad.
Jul 16 at 9:54
#3
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
Not a bad proposal. As a Canucks fan I hope we get more than this but I don't trust Benning to do so. Pitt wins the trade but it's not bad.


Yeah…pittsburgh doesn’t win this trade at all. They take a big fat L on this one. Thankfully Benning would be too stupid to take this and run lol
Jul 16 at 11:34
#4
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
Yeah…pittsburgh doesn’t win this trade at all. They take a big fat L on this one. Thankfully Benning would be too stupid to take this and run lol


How do you figure it is so good for the Canucks? We lose a 2-3 dman for a 5th defenseman and a back up goaltender.
Jul 16 at 11:48
#5
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
How do you figure it is so good for the Canucks? We lose a 2-3 dman for a 5th defenseman and a back up goaltender.


No you lose a 6th defender that’s a massive cap dump and a 4th liner (that likely would only make the lineup cause Geno will be out for the beginning of the year) for a top 4 defenseman, backup goalie, and depth forward that likely plays on the canucks 4th line.
Nate Schmidt was awful last year and is making almost 6 million for the next 4 years. That’s disgusting. Pettersson is the best player in this trade hands down.
Jul 17 at 3:15
#6
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
No you lose a 6th defender that’s a massive cap dump and a 4th liner (that likely would only make the lineup cause Geno will be out for the beginning of the year) for a top 4 defenseman, backup goalie, and depth forward that likely plays on the canucks 4th line.
Nate Schmidt was awful last year and is making almost 6 million for the next 4 years. That’s disgusting. Pettersson is the best player in this trade hands down.


By which metric is Pettersson a top 4 dman? Schmidt had a down yr no doubt but it's hyperbole to suggest he isn't a top 4 defenseman. He faced the highest quality of competition almost in the whole league 98 perctile and still managed the best corsi by Canucks dmen. He was a no. 2 dman on a team that went to two cup finals. Pettersson has only ever been a 6th defenseman.

Once the divisions switch back and Schmidt isn't facing McDavid, Mattews, Scheifele every other night you'll see him do much better. His contract is totally fine right now. Touch high based on last season, but he's a clear 2-3 dman in the league, that is what they cost.
Jul 17 at 3:26
#7
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
By which metric is Pettersson a top 4 dman? Schmidt had a down yr no doubt but it's hyperbole to suggest he isn't a top 4 defenseman. He faced the highest quality of competition almost in the whole league 98 perctile and still managed the best corsi by Canucks dmen. He was a no. 2 dman on a team that went to two cup finals. Pettersson has only ever been a 6th defenseman.

Once the divisions switch back and Schmidt isn't facing McDavid, Mattews, Scheifele every other night you'll see him do much better. His contract is totally fine right now. Touch high based on last season, but he's a clear 2-3 dman in the league, that is what they cost.


Pettersson has been a top 4 d for the past two years. I understand you don’t watch anything outside of your like canucks bubble and being a top pair d on the Canucks means nothing, especially when your stats are terrible lol. The Canucks d outside of Hughes is kinda bad lol.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20202021&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=ev&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=n&p1=8477969&p2=8477220&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

Pettersson is way better than Schmidt. It’s a what have you done for me lately business. I mean you see tons of Jarry trades for basically nothing over a few playoff games. I think a whole year of sucking should tank value even more lol. It’s funny though you say MP has only ever been a 6th d but Schmidt his a top pair lol. Schmidt’s ATOI was 20:06. MP’s last year was 19:24. So Pettersson has definitely been a top 4. And was over 16 minutes this year when they rolled 3 pairs.
Jul 18 at 3:30
#8
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Schmidt
Jul 18 at 3:31
#9
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
Pettersson has been a top 4 d for the past two years. I understand you don’t watch anything outside of your like canucks bubble and being a top pair d on the Canucks means nothing, especially when your stats are terrible lol. The Canucks d outside of Hughes is kinda bad lol.



https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20202021&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=ev&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=n&p1=8477969&p2=8477220&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

Pettersson is way better than Schmidt. It’s a what have you done for me lately business. I mean you see tons of Jarry trades for basically nothing over a few playoff games. I think a whole year of sucking should tank value even more lol. It’s funny though you say MP has only ever been a 6th d but Schmidt his a top pair lol. Schmidt’s ATOI was 20:06. MP’s last year was 19:24. So Pettersson has definitely been a top 4. And was over 16 minutes this year when they rolled 3 pairs.


Ok let's look at this objectively.
TOI the last three season:
Pettersson: 16:29, 19:24, 17:57
Schmidt: 20:06, 21:41, 21:57

TOI team rank amongst defenseman
Pettersson: 8th, 6th, 7th
Schmidt:. 4th, 2nd, 1st

Sorry to burst your bubble. You're trying to tell me Schmidt isn't top 4 when the numbers are closer to him being a no.2 on a cup contender in Vegas no less. Pettersson on the other hand was playing less than guys like Jack Johnson, Erik Gudbranson, Mike Matheson and 3 yr averages out as a 7th defenseman in toi.

Spare me the lols and you don't watch any hockey please.
Jul 18 at 5:53
#10
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
Ok let's look at this objectively.
TOI the last three season:
Pettersson: 16:29, 19:24, 17:57
Schmidt: 20:06, 21:41, 21:57

TOI team rank amongst defenseman
Pettersson: 8th, 6th, 7th
Schmidt:. 4th, 2nd, 1st

Sorry to burst your bubble. You're trying to tell me Schmidt isn't top 4 when the numbers are closer to him being a no.2 on a cup contender in Vegas no less. Pettersson on the other hand was playing less than guys like Jack Johnson, Erik Gudbranson, Mike Matheson and 3 yr averages out as a 7th defenseman in toi.

Spare me the lols and you don't watch any hockey please.


You’re wrong. Your TOI numbers are dumb and make no sense. The pens had like everyone on the left side injured at the same time and POJ was playing top pair minutes. Guy only played a hand full of games. We had guys play 1-2 games in the top 4 getting 18 minutes a game. That’s why Pettersson is “ranked 8th” in TOI among pens defenseman. But he isn’t when you actually look at TOI and not ATOI. The pens defense is also a million times better at full health than Vancouver’s is at full health. Heck even at half health, pens d is better than the Canucks d lol. Again being top 2 on Vancouver doesn’t mean you are actually a top 2. Schmidt wouldn’t be a top pair dman on a good team. He wouldn’t even be top 4 on a good team. So your logic is extremely flawed. Flip Pettersson and Schmidt and Pettersson is probably a “top pair” on Vancouver too 😂
Jul 19 at 1:35
#11
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
You’re wrong. Your TOI numbers are dumb and make no sense. The pens had like everyone on the left side injured at the same time and POJ was playing top pair minutes. Guy only played a hand full of games. We had guys play 1-2 games in the top 4 getting 18 minutes a game. That’s why Pettersson is “ranked 8th” in TOI among pens defenseman. But he isn’t when you actually look at TOI and not ATOI. The pens defense is also a million times better at full health than Vancouver’s is at full health. Heck even at half health, pens d is better than the Canucks d lol. Again being top 2 on Vancouver doesn’t mean you are actually a top 2. Schmidt wouldn’t be a top pair dman on a good team. He wouldn’t even be top 4 on a good team. So your logic is extremely flawed. Flip Pettersson and Schmidt and Pettersson is probably a “top pair” on Vancouver too 😂


"The numbers are dumb and make no sense" Come on dude they're literal toi stats.

Lets do TOI ice total stats team rank amongst defenseman then. Last 3 seasons.
Pettersson: 6th, 2nd (this is the one season he ranks high and Dumoulin, Marino, Schultz all just play less games), 7th
Schmidt: 4th, 3rd, 4th, 1st

Again that is just to satisfy your argument. Schmidt missed 10 games in a couple of those seasons or would have ranked higher as he was clearly the teams 1 or 2 dman in Vegas. Vegas of course went to two cup finals. Schmidt played 24;25 and 23:03 in those yrs. That ranked 1st on the team both yrs. It's a bit baffling to me that you think he is bad. Make the case that he's not top 4 when he's played consistently as a 1 or 2. Can you make a coherent argument that he is not top 4 in the face of those numbers?

I agree the Canucks d are not good but Pettersson is playing behind players like Gudbranson and Jack Johnson who are some of the worst dmen in the league.
Jul 19 at 10:23
#12
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
"The numbers are dumb and make no sense" Come on dude they're literal toi stats.

Lets do TOI ice total stats team rank amongst defenseman then. Last 3 seasons.
Pettersson: 6th, 2nd (this is the one season he ranks high and Dumoulin, Marino, Schultz all just play less games), 7th
Schmidt: 4th, 3rd, 4th, 1st

Again that is just to satisfy your argument. Schmidt missed 10 games in a couple of those seasons or would have ranked higher as he was clearly the teams 1 or 2 dman in Vegas. Vegas of course went to two cup finals. Schmidt played 24;25 and 23:03 in those yrs. That ranked 1st on the team both yrs. It's a bit baffling to me that you think he is bad. Make the case that he's not top 4 when he's played consistently as a 1 or 2. Can you make a coherent argument that he is not top 4 in the face of those numbers?

I agree the Canucks d are not good but Pettersson is playing behind players like Gudbranson and Jack Johnson who are some of the worst dmen in the league.


They are ATOI stats. And no Pettersson isn’t playing behind players like JJ and Gudbranson. Those guys aren’t even on the team anymore. Also when they were, Pettersson was just a rookie who literally just got traded here lololol. Your numbers are dumb and illogical to use. Your team sucks and has a terrible defense. The pens are good and have a good defense. Pettersson also didn’t have to play much special teams when everyone was healthy. So the majority of Pettersson’s ATOI is at even strength. Your argument is terrible and proves nothing except the Canucks are terrible lol
Jul 20 at 12:45
#13
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
They are ATOI stats. And no Pettersson isn’t playing behind players like JJ and Gudbranson. Those guys aren’t even on the team anymore. Also when they were, Pettersson was just a rookie who literally just got traded here lololol. Your numbers are dumb and illogical to use. Your team sucks and has a terrible defense. The pens are good and have a good defense. Pettersson also didn’t have to play much special teams when everyone was healthy. So the majority of Pettersson’s ATOI is at even strength. Your argument is terrible and proves nothing except the Canucks are terrible lol


Nice. So when you can't make an argument you just say your numbers suck and the Canucks defense sucks. He was literally behind Johnson in ATOI last yr. And the yr before he was behind Gudbranson one of the worst defenseman we've seen on the Canucks in decades. You still have made no case as to why Schmidt isn't a top 4 defenseman when he has literally played as a no. 1 and no.2 for a cup contender in recent yrs. Can you make a coherent argument or is it all just kinda feels and what you read on twitter?
Jul 20 at 3:21
#14
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
Nice. So when you can't make an argument you just say your numbers suck and the Canucks defense sucks. He was literally behind Johnson in ATOI last yr. And the yr before he was behind Gudbranson one of the worst defenseman we've seen on the Canucks in decades. You still have made no case as to why Schmidt isn't a top 4 defenseman when he has literally played as a no. 1 and no.2 for a cup contender in recent yrs. Can you make a coherent argument or is it all just kinda feels and what you read on twitter?


No using ATOI is a dumb stat to dictate what player plays on what pair because, for example, Gudbranson played a handful of games that year and they got him because their was injuries. Gudbranson also is a righty, Pettersson is a lefty. So Gudbranson was our 2nd best healthy RHD at that time behind letang. Gudbranson is hardly a top 4 Dman. The pens had Dumo, Maatta, JJ, and Pettersson that year. That was Pettersson’s rookie year and made the least out of any LHD that year by far. It’s also dumb because ATOI also adds special teams play. For example last year Ceci regularly had 5+ minutes of short handed time. So his 17-18 minutes of ATOI is really only 12-13 minutes of even strength time, while MP (outside of a handful of games during the injury bug stretch) maybe got a couple of seconds here and there of special teams time. So pretty much all of his ATOI is even strength. The o oy argument that isn’t coherent is yours lol
Jul 20 at 6:24
#15
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
No using ATOI is a dumb stat to dictate what player plays on what pair because, for example, Gudbranson played a handful of games that year and they got him because their was injuries. Gudbranson also is a righty, Pettersson is a lefty. So Gudbranson was our 2nd best healthy RHD at that time behind letang. Gudbranson is hardly a top 4 Dman. The pens had Dumo, Maatta, JJ, and Pettersson that year. That was Pettersson’s rookie year and made the least out of any LHD that year by far. It’s also dumb because ATOI also adds special teams play. For example last year Ceci regularly had 5+ minutes of short handed time. So his 17-18 minutes of ATOI is really only 12-13 minutes of even strength time, while MP (outside of a handful of games during the injury bug stretch) maybe got a couple of seconds here and there of special teams time. So pretty much all of his ATOI is even strength. The o oy argument that isn’t coherent is yours lol


You realize that playing powerplay and penalty kill is an asset for the team right. You can't say well even strength he's a top 4 defenseman. If you are that good you are going to be on the pp or pk. But to be clear you need to make the argument as to why Schmidt despite playing more minutes than any defenseman in Vegas during their cup run isn't a top 4 nhl defenseman. He can play pp and plays shutdown minutes as well, so make your case as to how you can say Schmidt is not a top 4 defenseman?
Jul 21 at 7:39
#16
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: BigShoots
You realize that playing powerplay and penalty kill is an asset for the team right. You can't say well even strength he's a top 4 defenseman. If you are that good you are going to be on the pp or pk. But to be clear you need to make the argument as to why Schmidt despite playing more minutes than any defenseman in Vegas during their cup run isn't a top 4 nhl defenseman. He can play pp and plays shutdown minutes as well, so make your case as to how you can say Schmidt is not a top 4 defenseman?


I have made the argument as to why Schmidt isn’t a top 4 defenseman. He sucks and his stats prove it. And yes playing special teams is an asset. But just because you are a top 4 d doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll play pp or pk. Using ATOI is a ridiculous and flawed argument to make because your defense sucks. So like I said, if MP was on the Canucks and Schmidt was on the pens, Schmidt would be on the 3rd pair and MP would be on the top pair. Using ATOI as an argument for being a good defenseman means you think guys like Filip Hronek and Nikita Zaitsev are on the same level as Victor Hedman, Kris Letang, Alex Pietrangelo just because they play a similar amount of time on the ice. But the reality is, if either of those players were on a team like the pens or Avs, they’d be 3rd pair defensemen. It is your responsibility to make a logical case as to why Schmidt would be a top pair, or at least top 4 defenseman for the pens.
Jul 21 at 3:55
#17
Big Shoots
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 556
Likes: 124
Quoting: Pensfan89
I have made the argument as to why Schmidt isn’t a top 4 defenseman. He sucks and his stats prove it. And yes playing special teams is an asset. But just because you are a top 4 d doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll play pp or pk. Using ATOI is a ridiculous and flawed argument to make because your defense sucks. So like I said, if MP was on the Canucks and Schmidt was on the pens, Schmidt would be on the 3rd pair and MP would be on the top pair. Using ATOI as an argument for being a good defenseman means you think guys like Filip Hronek and Nikita Zaitsev are on the same level as Victor Hedman, Kris Letang, Alex Pietrangelo just because they play a similar amount of time on the ice. But the reality is, if either of those players were on a team like the pens or Avs, they’d be 3rd pair defensemen. It is your responsibility to make a logical case as to why Schmidt would be a top pair, or at least top 4 defenseman for the pens.


"Schmidt sucks and his stats prove it" Which stats would those be?

Pettersson would clearly be behind Hughes and Edler last season that is not even up for debate. The funny thing is Pettersson isn't even a 5th dman as we proved. He so amazing but yet not a pp or pk player. Played less mins than Jack Johnson last yr. Johnson being widely known as one of the worst defensemen in the league. This yr he played less than Matheson, Ceci, even the rookie Joseph played more when he was called up. I guess in the playoffs he would be used more right? Oh well look at that he played 13:19 in the playoffs. Yes that is 18th on the entire team in ice time, dead last amongst dmen. Pitt defense is really not that stellar after Dumoulin and the Letang either.

Then he gets exposed in the Seattle draft. And would you look at that the Kraken don't select him.

As I made quite clear Schmidt plays 20 mins a night for the last 4 seasons. You don't do that as a 5th dman. In the playoffs those numbers go up to 22-24 min a night. Only top pair guys play that much. He did that on a cup contender. You kind conveniently have glossed over this. So again please explain how he is not a top 4 dman when he has played as a no.1 and no.2. Which stats of his suck? He literally played shutdown mins in a new system against McDavid, Matthews, Scheifele every night, 98 percentile for QOC.

Pettersson on the other hand makes 4 million to be a bottom pairing guy. But really which stats of Schmidt's are so bad that you think it makes him a bottom pairing dman?
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Remove Option
Submit Poll