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some trades

Created by: JJtrain
Initial Creation Date: Jul 16, 2021
Published: Jul 16 at 8:10
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hyman, Zach4$5,000,000
Galchenyuk, Alex3$1,050,000
Bogosian, Zach2$1,000,000
Foligno, Nick2$2,750,000
Bernier, Jonathan3$2,750,000
Hamilton, Dougie4$6,500,000
Coleman, Blake2$6,100,000
Trades
TOR
    Expansion Pick
    SEA
    1. Holl, Justin
    TOR
    1. Boeser, Brock
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (VAN)
    VAN
    1. Nylander, William
    TOR
    1. Gaudreau, Johnny ($1,750,000 retained)
    2. 2021 5th round pick (CGY)
    CGY
    1. Rielly, Morgan
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    TOR
    VAN
    TOR
    CGY
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$81,357,417$0$0$142,583
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    CGY
    Gaudreau, Johnny
    $5,000,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    $5,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TOR
    Foligno, Nick
    $2,750,000
    LW, C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Boeser, Brock
    $5,875,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Coleman, Blake
    $6,100,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Galchenyuk, Alex
    $1,050,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    $1,645,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $6,500,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Bernier, Jonathan
    $2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    $1,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Bogosian, Zach
    $1,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Taxi Squad
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    $1,250,000 ($125,000)
    LW, C
    RFA - 1

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    Jul 16 at 8:12
    #1
    Joined: Sep 2020
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    You would be adding A LOT to that Flames trade. They are working on an extension so I doubt he is traded.
    Jul 16 at 8:14
    #2
    PeterForsberg21
    Joined: Jan 2021
    Posts: 1,412
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    VAN is not moving Boeser.
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    Jul 16 at 8:17
    #3
    Flames
    Joined: Jun 2018
    Posts: 468
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    Not a chance, easy no from the Flames.
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    Jul 16 at 8:42
    #4
    Joined: Jul 2018
    Posts: 719
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    Johnny Gaudreau is the last thing the Leafs need
    Jul 16 at 9:25
    #5
    Big Shoots
    Joined: Sep 2020
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    Quoting: PeterForsberg21
    VAN is not moving Boeser.


    Adding a 2nd is just the most Toronto homer idea too.
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    Jul 16 at 10:49
    #6
    Formerly Jamiepo
    Joined: Jul 2018
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    Quoting: BigShoots
    Adding a 2nd is just the most Toronto homer idea too.


    Why wouldn’t they? Nylander is better.
    Jul 16 at 11:37
    #7
    Big Shoots
    Joined: Sep 2020
    Posts: 556
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    Quoting: GenXHockey
    Why wouldn’t they? Nylander is better.


    by which metric is he better?
    Jul 16 at 11:44
    #8
    Formerly Jamiepo
    Joined: Jul 2018
    Posts: 18,647
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    Quoting: BigShoots
    by which metric is he better?


    Points, possession skill. He’s just a better player. I would not make the deal even with the 2nd. Leafs have no use for the 2nd. Can’t see benning wanting to add 1m too his Cap issue either.
    Jul 17 at 3:07
    #9
    Big Shoots
    Joined: Sep 2020
    Posts: 556
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    Quoting: GenXHockey
    Points, possession skill. He’s just a better player. I would not make the deal even with the 2nd. Leafs have no use for the 2nd. Can’t see benning wanting to add 1m too his Cap issue either.


    Boeser led the Canucks in points with 49
    Nylander was 4th on the Leafs with 42

    Career PPG
    Boeser .83
    Nylander .73

    Career Corsi rel
    Boeser 14.4
    Nylander 9.9

    They are similar players. Nylander can play center so that is an advantage. But Boeser is younger and the better goal scorer. No chance you would add a pick let alone 40th overall if you are the Canucks. Pure Leafs homerism. It comes across in 80% of proposals by Leafs fans.
    Jul 17 at 4:15
    #10
    Formerly Jamiepo
    Joined: Jul 2018
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    Quoting: BigShoots
    Boeser led the Canucks in points with 49
    Nylander was 4th on the Leafs with 42

    Career PPG
    Boeser .83
    Nylander .73

    Career Corsi rel
    Boeser 14.4
    Nylander 9.9

    They are similar players. Nylander can play center so that is an advantage. But Boeser is younger and the better goal scorer. No chance you would add a pick let alone 40th overall if you are the Canucks. Pure Leafs homerism. It comes across in 80% of proposals by Leafs fans.


    My opinion nylander is the better player. Eye test sells it. He also only gets 3/4 of the ice time as boesser. Nylander career high in points and goals in a season are both higher than boesser. Who hasn’t broken 60 points or 30 goals. I don’t believe the 9 or so months between them is a big deal. Nylander did have one horrible season point wise when he missed half a year. Other than that he has been fantastic.

    No rose coloured glasses here. Nylander is the 2nd best player on the leafs in my opinion. Boesser also has a contract coming due. Could get messy.
    Jul 18 at 3:40
    #11
    Big Shoots
    Joined: Sep 2020
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    Quoting: GenXHockey
    My opinion nylander is the better player. Eye test sells it. He also only gets 3/4 of the ice time as boesser. Nylander career high in points and goals in a season are both higher than boesser. Who hasn’t broken 60 points or 30 goals. I don’t believe the 9 or so months between them is a big deal. Nylander did have one horrible season point wise when he missed half a year. Other than that he has been fantastic.

    No rose coloured glasses here. Nylander is the 2nd best player on the leafs in my opinion. Boesser also has a contract coming due. Could get messy.


    So first the metrics were points and possession, then once those were proven false it is eye test.

    I can also use excuses as to why Boeser hasn't reached his full potential including a freak back injury, missing his centerman for half the season, his father falling terminally ill. Despite all this he led the Canucks in scoring. They're both really good players and quite comparable. With some better injury luck and without pandemic we might be talking about Boeser as a 40 goal scorer. But again that is what ifs, when we talk actual data Boeser stacks up well. No way you'd add the 40th pick to make that trade.

    As for contract I think Nylanders 7.5 is a good comparable, in fact I'm fairly confident it could be less than that considering Nylander signed before the cap freeze.
     
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