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Created by: eatfreshrefresh
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2021
Published: Jul. 16, 2021
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  1. Pánik, Richard
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (DET)
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2021
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17$81,500,000$72,954,188$1,365,854$1,075,000$8,545,812
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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Jul. 16, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
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50% retained by DET on Panik
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Jul. 16, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: joshelkin
50% retained by DET on Panik


WHAT A DEAL
Jul. 16, 2021 at 8:43 p.m.
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But he's a rental . . . Detroit would never pay for rentals!!! LMAO
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Jul. 16, 2021 at 10:56 p.m.
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It's about next yr wuth leddy off books & only paying 1.375m... It's cap savings for both actually .. Plus Stevie maybe making other moves (leddy or not) post expansion draft & we can flip leddy at deadline when he's cheaper & get better assets if needed to retain on him in a deal.. We still got like $45M cap space now
Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike
It's about next yr wuth leddy off books & only paying 1.375m... It's cap savings for both actually .. Plus Stevie maybe making other moves (leddy or not) post expansion draft & we can flip leddy at deadline when he's cheaper & get better assets if needed to retain on him in a deal.. We still got like $45M cap space now


It's okay . . . just say it: "I hate this deal. What the hell is Stevie doing?" You'll feel better to just let it out rather than pretend to defend it. Just remember it could be worse . . . you could have traded solid assets for Keith!
Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Quillanrocks
It's okay . . . just say it: "I hate this deal. What the hell is Stevie doing?" You'll feel better to just let it out rather than pretend to defend it. Just remember it could be worse . . . you could have traded solid assets for Keith!


Dream on.. Stevie did well here... He's cleaned cap of 22-23 with panik only 1.375m .. & I'll bet we'll flip leddy at deadline with his likely top 4 role & pp time he'll look better to playoff teams & at cheaper cap hit shall we retain then .. If u think Lou swindled Stevie ..then yr drunk... Both teams won this one bro..its big picture view unless you're blind
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Jul. 17, 2021 at 1:38 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 17, 2021 at 1:54 a.m.
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Dream on.. Stevie did well here... He's cleaned cap of 22-23 with panik only 1.375m .. & I'll bet we'll flip leddy at deadline with his likely top 4 role & pp time he'll look better to playoff teams & at cheaper cap hit shall we retain then .. If u think Lou swindled Stevie ..then yr drunk... Both teams won this one bro..its big picture view unless you're blind


Yeah, I'm sure the 1.375 million was absolutely going to break the bank for the Red Wings next season!! LOL

You sure are in the minority. I saw many other Detroit fans on here totally scoff at the idea of paying anything for Leddy over the last month. Biggest comment was "We're not paying for cap dumps!" Even sending a fourth for him was unacceptable!! Another favorite (for a lot of players with high cap hits and a year remaining) was: "The Rangers sent us a 2nd Rounder to take Staal, so that's the going rate!" Sure, you also removed 1/2 of Panik's salary. Good on ya!

But I will give credit where it's due. If any GM can find a way to flip a player for a better return than what it cost to acquire him, it very well would be Yzerman. But I tell you, Leddy better have one helluva season to get back a 2nd rounder or better, assuming that trading him will be the end game here. (?) Of course, time will tell. Big picture view is great. But in the now, victory goes to Lou. Convince yourself of the alternate all you want, bro. The Isles were desperate to move a player for both expansion reasons AND cap reasons, and the Wings gave up some of their prized draft capital to help them.
Jul. 17, 2021 at 2:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Quillanrocks
Yeah, I'm sure the 1.375 million was absolutely going to break the bank for the Red Wings next season!! LOL

You sure are in the minority. I saw many other Detroit fans on here totally scoff at the idea of paying anything for Leddy over the last month. Biggest comment was "We're not paying for cap dumps!" Even sending a fourth for him was unacceptable!! Another favorite (for a lot of players with high cap hits and a year remaining) was: "The Rangers sent us a 2nd Rounder to take Staal, so that's the going rate!" Sure, you also removed 1/2 of Panik's salary. Good on ya!

But I will give credit where it's due. If any GM can find a way to flip a player for a better return than what it cost to acquire him, it very well would be Yzerman. But I tell you, Leddy better have one helluva season to get back a 2nd rounder or better, assuming that trading him will be the end game here. (?) Of course, time will tell. Big picture view is great. But in the now, victory goes to Lou. Convince yourself of the alternate all you want, bro. The Isles were desperate to move a player for both expansion reasons AND cap reasons, and the Wings gave up some of their prized draft capital to help them.


That's cuz u assume this is all he's doing .. Stevie plays chess while others play checkers.. If nothing else my point stands on clearing cap space & opens up roster spot upfront..but more than likely something else (trade or otherwise) is coming too.. Keep watching 👀
Jul. 17, 2021 at 7:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike
Dream on.. Stevie did well here... He's cleaned cap of 22-23 with panik only 1.375m .. & I'll bet we'll flip leddy at deadline with his likely top 4 role & pp time he'll look better to playoff teams & at cheaper cap hit shall we retain then .. If u think Lou swindled Stevie ..then yr drunk... Both teams won this one bro..its big picture view unless you're blind


Leddy is an okay player this is true but for the islanders to get a second here is crazy. Their cap situation is obvious
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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So... Isles win this trade now. If Leddy helps mentor Detroit's D core (Hronek, Seider, and maybe Cholowski/Lindstrom), and they trade him for a mid round pick or higher, then this trade is a win for both teams.
I'll admit, at first, it seemed like a major head scratcher, but putting some thought to it makes it not seem so bad. Yzerman probably could have spent less on Leddy though.
 
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