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ideal scenario

Created by: gporco
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2021
Published: Jul. 17, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
pens cup
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aston-Reese, Zach2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Parise, Zach2$1,500,000
Gaudreau, Frédérick2$950,000
Armia, Joel2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
    SEA
    1. Aston-Reese, Zach
    2.
    PIT
    1. Gibson, John
    2. Rakell, Rickard
    ANA
    1. Zucker, Jason
    2. Légaré, Nathan
    3. Jarry, Tristan
    4. Pettersson, Marcus
    5. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
    6. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
    7. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
    Buyouts
    • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
    Buried
    • Juuso Riikola: $25,000 ($1,150,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    WSH
    ANA
    2022
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    2023
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,030,808$0$962,500$469,192

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PIT
    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    ANA
    Rakell, Rickard
    $3,789,444
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,200,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Parise, Zach
    $1,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Carter, Jeff
    $2,636,364
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Armia, Joel
    $3,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Tanev, Brandon
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Blueger, Teddy
    $2,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Gaudreau, Frédérick
    $950,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Lafferty, Sam
    $750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PIT
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    ANA
    Gibson, John
    $6,400,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    Matheson, Michael
    $4,875,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Marino, John
    $4,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Friedman, Mark
    $725,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Guentzel, J.
    Crosby, S.
    Rakell, R.
    Malkin, E.
    Letang, K.
    Power Play 2
    Rust, B.
    Carter, J.
    Kapanen, K.
    Parise, Z.
    Matheson, M.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Blueger, T.
    Tanev, B.
    Dumoulin, B.
    Letang, K.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Carter, J.
    Armia, J.
    Joseph, P.
    Marino, J.

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    Jul. 17 at 6:14 p.m.
    #1
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    I wouldnt do that as a pens fan
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    Jul. 17 at 6:17 p.m.
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    Edited Jul. 17 at 6:28 p.m.
    Parise is soft as Charmin. U just made the Pens way worse defensively.

    Parise would need to be on that 2nd line. Keep ZAR/Blueger/Tanev line together.

    And 3rd line I guess Gaudreau/Carter/Armia.

    Let Seattle take Zucker..(hopefully) if they take ZAR. Then the Pens F—up.

    We should have just let Kraken take McCann in that case and just moved on.

    Jarry, Pettersson, Legare and two 1st round picks is Plenty for Gibson. Although I don’t think ANA wants or needs Pettersson back. They need to get rid of Fowler and Lindholm and start rebuilding.

    Maybe Jarry, PO-Joseph, Legare and two 1st. For Gibson and Shattenkirk. That would make more sense in my opinion.
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    Jul. 17 at 6:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Pairse is soft as Charmin. U just made the Pens way worse defensively.

    He’s on a line with armia and Carter who are both good defensively so doesn’t matter
    Jul. 17 at 6:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Imagine875948
    I wouldnt do that as a pens fan


    Why not is it cuz of the picks? We already have a **** future might as well go all in imo
    Jul. 17 at 6:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Parise is soft as Charmin. U just made the Pens way worse defensively.

    Parise would need to be on that 2nd line. Keep ZAR/Blueger/Tanev line together.

    And 3rd line I guess Gaudreau/Carter/Armia.

    Let Seattle take Zucker..(hopefully) if they take ZAR. Then the Pens F—up.

    We should have just let Kraken take McCann in that case and just moved on.

    Jarry, Pettersson, Legare and two 1st round picks is Plenty for Gibson. Although I don’t think ANA wants or needs Pettersson back. They need to get rid of Fowler and Lindholm and start rebuilding.

    Maybe Jarry, PO-Joseph, Legare and 2 two 1st. For Gibson and Manson. That would make more sense in my opinion.


    We would be getting Gibson and rakell
    Jul. 17 at 6:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Parise is soft as Charmin. U just made the Pens way worse defensively.

    Parise would need to be on that 2nd line. Keep ZAR/Blueger/Tanev line together.

    And 3rd line I guess Gaudreau/Carter/Armia.

    Let Seattle take Zucker..(hopefully) if they take ZAR. Then the Pens F—up.

    We should have just let Kraken take McCann in that case and just moved on.

    Jarry, Pettersson, Legare and two 1st round picks is Plenty for Gibson. Although I don’t think ANA wants or needs Pettersson back. They need to get rid of Fowler and Lindholm and start rebuilding.

    Maybe Jarry, PO-Joseph, Legare and two 1st. For Gibson and Shattenkirk. That would make more sense in my opinion.


    I wouldnt trade 2 firsts at all. Jarry, POJ, Zucker, Lagere, 2nd, 2nd is plenty for Gibson imo.
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    Jul. 17 at 6:32 p.m.
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    Edited Jul. 17 at 6:45 p.m.
    Quoting: gporco
    We would be getting Gibson and rakell


    Ya, like I said, You made us way worse defensively.

    Take Gibson and Shattenkirk for Jarry, PO-Joseph, Legare and two1st or one 1st.

    Hopefully Seattle takes Zucker.

    Resign ZAR for 2 years at 1.75M. A 3.5M total contract.

    Guentzel/Sid/Rust
    Parise/Geno/Kappy
    Gaudreau/Carter/Armia
    ZAR/Blueger/Tanev

    Dumoulin/Letang
    Pettersson/Marino
    Matheson/Shattenkirk

    Gibson and DeSmith.

    Much better team imo. We don’t need Rakell. He’s not good defensively and doenst hit. You already took on Parise.
    Jul. 17 at 6:36 p.m.
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    Edited Jul. 17 at 6:42 p.m.
    Quoting: gporco
    He’s on a line with armia and Carter who are both good defensively so doesn’t matter



    Sure it does. Parise isn’t good enough defensively, big enough or physical enough to play on a legit NHL 3rd line.
    Jul. 17 at 6:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Ya, like I said, You made us way worse defensively.

    Take Gibson and Shattenkirk for Jarry, PO-Joseph, Legare and two1st or one 1st.

    Hopefully Seattle takes Zucker.

    Resign ZAR for 2 years at 1.75M. A 3.5M total contract.

    Guentzel/Sid/Rust
    Parise/Geno/Kappy
    Gaudreau/Carter/Armia
    ZAR/Blueger/Tanev

    Dumoulin/Letang
    Pettersson/Marino
    Matheson/Shattenkirk

    Gibson and DeSmith.

    Much better team imo. We don’t need Rakell. He’s not good defensively and doenst hit. You already took on Parise.


    we could remove the defensive problem by just putting rakell with sid and the top 6 would be

    jake/sid/rakell
    rust/geno/kappy
    both lines can handle themselves in their own zone this way
    Jul. 17 at 6:39 p.m.
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    Edited Jul. 17 at 6:50 p.m.
    Quoting: gporco
    we could remove the defensive problem by just putting rakell with sid and the top 6 would be

    jake/sid/rakell
    rust/geno/kappy
    both lines can handle themselves in their own zone this way


    Dude, Rust is RH shot and a RW. They arnt interchangeable positions. U know why RH shots play the right side?? U ever play hockey..?? They armt interchangeable positions like that my man.

    Rust has LW eligibility on This site b/c he plays his off side, on the PP. The only time it’s an advantage for a player to play their off hand. Shooting the puck.
    Jul. 17 at 6:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Dude, Rust is RH shot and a RW. They arnt interchangeable positions. U know why RH shots play the right side?? U ever play hockey. They armt interchangeable positions like that my man.

    Rust has LW eligibility on This site b/c he plays his off side, on the PP. the only time it’s an advantage for a player to play their off hand. Shooting the puck.


    ove is a RH shot and plays on the left
    Jul. 17 at 6:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: gporco
    ove is a RH shot and plays on the left


    Right. U know how big he is. And he’s played that his whole life. Move him to RW then. That’s what u are doing.

    You know How strong on the puck Ovi is?? When he’s carrying the Puck down the ice and how he has his stick in one hand and his off hand is fighting off the D-man. Ya, he’s the best ever at that. Most players need the puck along the boards so your body is a natural protector of the puck.


    Parise isn’t good enough defensively, big enough or physical enough to play on a legit NHL 3rd line.

    We need toughness and size. Or else we should’ve just kept McCann.

    I would rather 6’2, 215 pound Poulin on the 3rd line LW. Or Hallander. And be Poulin or Hallander/Carter/Armia

    It’s not happening either way. .5% chance we trade for Gibson. And like I said, most likely it would be Jarry, POJ, Legare, a 1st for Gibson and probably Shattenkirk back. That’s what makes sence.
    Jul. 17 at 6:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Right. U know how big he is. And he’s played that his whole life. Move him to LW then. That’s what u are doing.

    You know How strong on the puck Ovi is?? When he’s carrying the Puck down the ice and how he has his stick in one hand and his off hand is fighting off the D-man. Ya, he’s the best ever at that. Most players need the puck along the boards so your body is a natural protector of the puck.
    yea i don't think this will happen either, we will end up signing like one free agent and call it an off season, but we do not need toughness and size, its not the early 2000s anymore game has changed, the reason we lost wasn't because we weren't tough enough it was bc jarry was horrible, look at tampa, no one in their top 6 is tough or big yet they went b2b

    Parise isn’t good enough defensively, big enough or physical enough to play on a legit NHL 3rd line.

    We need toughness and size. Or else we should’ve just kept McCann.

    I would rather 6’2, 215 pound Poulin on the 3rd line LW. Or Hallander. And be Poulin or Hallander/Carter/Armia

    It’s not happening either way. .5% chance we trade for Gibson. And like I said, most likely it would be Jarry, POJ, Legare, a 1st for Gibson and probably Shattenkirk back. That’s what makes sence.
    Jul. 17 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: gporco


    Dude, TB and Montreal were the two of the most physical teams in the NHL. Burke/Hextall want size and toughness. Not me. It’s literally all they say.
     
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