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my next jersey is a kraken carey price

Created by: habsfan00
Initial Creation Date: Jul 17, 2021
Published: Jul 17 at 11:12
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Lehkonen, Artturi4$2,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Perry, Corey1$750,000
Danault, Phillip7$6,000,000
Hamilton, Dougie7$8,500,000
Halák, Jaroslav1$1,900,000
Martinez, Alec1$5,000,000
Hall, Taylor6$6,000,000
Martinook, Jordan2$1,800,000
Trades
MTL
    SEA
    1. Price, Carey
    MTL
    1. Eichel, Jack
    BUF
    1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [RFA Rights]
    2. Fleury, Cale [RFA Rights]
    3. Poehling, Ryan [RFA Rights]
    4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
    5. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
    MTL
    1. 2023 7th round pick (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Byron, Paul
    2. Kulak, Brett
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
    MTL
    1. 2021 3rd round pick (LAK)
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
    LAK
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
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    • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
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    CHI
    WSH
    LAK
    TOR
    MTL
    STL
    VGK
    PHI
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2023
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ARI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$80,469,227$597,561$2,975,000$1,030,773
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    $4,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Caufield, Cole
    $880,833
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Hall, Taylor
    $6,000,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    $10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Anderson, Josh
    $5,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Lehkonen, Artturi
    $2,200,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $6,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $6,500,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    Martinook, Jordan
    $1,800,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    $750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Perry, Corey
    $750,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MTL
    Edmundson, Joel
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $6,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Allen, Jake
    $2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Martinez, Alec
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $8,500,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Halák, Jaroslav
    $1,900,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Chiarot, Ben
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    $894,167
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5

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    Jul 17 at 11:16
    #1
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    That doesn't get you Eichel. One of Caufield or Suzuki should be in the deal.
    Jul 17 at 11:20
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    PaTrIcK rOy Is CoMiN
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    That doesn't get you Eichel. One of Caufield or Suzuki should be in the deal.


    Eichel won't get you one of them :-P
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    Jul 17 at 11:23
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    IF (when IMO) Price is taken by the Kracken, you may as well forget about adding big name FA's and trades like Eichel cause it will drive us into our 3rd rebuild in 10 years of MB. We are turning into the Canadian version of the Sabres.
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    Jul 17 at 11:30
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    Quoting: Campabee
    IF (when IMO) Price is taken by the Kracken, you may as well forget about adding big name FA's and trades like Eichel cause it will drive us into our 3rd rebuild in 10 years of MB. We are turning into the Canadian version of the Sabres.


    except the habs made the finals
    Jul 17 at 11:40
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    Quoting: habsfan00
    except the habs made the finals


    Yes BUT they won't without Price!
    Jul 17 at 11:42
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Yes BUT they won't without Price!


    yup
    Jul 17 at 11:46
    #7
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    Quoting: Tarlam01
    Eichel won't get you one of them :-P


    This.
    Jul 17 at 11:48
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    Quoting: Tarlam01
    Eichel won't get you one of them :-P


    Eichel probably gets both of them. Typical overvaluing of your own players. I don't think Montreal should go after him if they lose Price. They aren't winning a cup with Jake Allen as the starter.
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    Jul 18 at 12:03
    #9
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    Man oh man an you are overvaluing eichiel , dont forget he got and injury that we dont know really what the operation will do …. Stop thinking the sabre will get top prospect from anyteam….
    Jul 18 at 12:13
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Eichel probably gets both of them. Typical overvaluing of your own players. I don't think Montreal should go after him if they lose Price. They aren't winning a cup with Jake Allen as the starter.


    Both.. Oh please!
    Suzuki is already recognized as a top flight center with Bergeron like qualities.
    Caufield has outscored nearly every player before him through the USHL programs including Auston Matthews. He's almost across the board known as the 1st or 2nd best prospect from that 2019 NHL draft class
    Jul 18 at 1:35
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    Quoting: OlegP
    Both.. Oh please!
    Suzuki is already recognized as a top flight center with Bergeron like qualities.
    Caufield has outscored nearly every player before him through the USHL programs including Auston Matthews. He's almost across the board known as the 1st or 2nd best prospect from that 2019 NHL draft class


    Bergeron wins faceoffs. Suzuki not so much.

    Caufield the best prospect from the 2019 NHL draft class? Don't make me laugh. Dach and Hughes are both better and Zegras will be better to.
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    Jul 18 at 4:21
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Bergeron wins faceoffs. Suzuki not so much.

    Caufield the best prospect from the 2019 NHL draft class? Don't make me laugh. Dach and Hughes are both better and Zegras will be better to.


    No.. just no. Laughing that Caufield is a top prospect. ok. ur crazy good to know
    Jul 18 at 12:49
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    Quoting: OlegP
    No.. just no. Laughing that Caufield is a top prospect. ok. ur crazy good to know


    He's a great prospect but the BEST from the 2019 NHL draft class? Seriously? Homer alert.
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    Jul 18 at 8:39
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    That doesn't get you Eichel. One of Caufield or Suzuki should be in the deal.
    Quoting: Tarlam01
    Eichel won't get you one of them :-P
    Quoting: OlegP
    This.
    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Eichel probably gets both of them. Typical overvaluing of your own players. I don't think Montreal should go after him if they lose Price. They aren't winning a cup with Jake Allen as the starter.
    Quoting: Zekelio
    Man oh man an you are overvaluing eichiel , dont forget he got and injury that we dont know really what the operation will do …. Stop thinking the sabre will get top prospect from anyteam….
    let me put this deal into perspective:
    Buffalo offers:
    Casey Mittelstadt
    Miska Kukkonen
    Branden Davidson
    2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
    For Suzuki.
    Would anyone from Montreal say yes?
    Well that is nearly the same value as you are proposing for JE.
    Kotkaniemi has one more NHL pt than Mittelstadt but played 15 more games
    Fleury has about the chance of playing the NHL as Kukkonen
    Poehling Davidson was selected 12 spots later in the same draft and has about the chance of playing in the NHL
    2021 1st round pick (MTL) nearly equal to Buffalo's 2021 2nd
    2023 1st round pick (MTL) Buffalo 2 seconds maybe more valuable.
    So are the Canadian fans offering Suzuki for Jack Eichel?
    I am sure all MTL fans say this is not the same, yup the offer for Suzuki is bigger.
    Jul 18 at 8:56
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    Quoting: gretzkyghosts
    let me put this deal into perspective:
    Buffalo offers:
    Casey Mittelstadt
    Miska Kukkonen
    Branden Davidson
    2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
    For Suzuki.
    Would anyone from Montreal say yes?
    Well that is nearly the same value as you are proposing for JE.
    Kotkaniemi has one more NHL pt than Mittelstadt but played 15 more games
    Fleury has about the chance of playing the NHL as Kukkonen
    Poehling Davidson was selected 12 spots later in the same draft and has about the chance of playing in the NHL
    2021 1st round pick (MTL) nearly equal to Buffalo's 2021 2nd
    2023 1st round pick (MTL) Buffalo 2 seconds maybe more valuable.
    So are the Canadian fans offering Suzuki for Jack Eichel?
    I am sure all MTL fans say this is not the same, yup the offer for Suzuki is bigger.


    no ur wrong
    Jul 19 at 12:01
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    Quoting: gretzkyghosts
    let me put this deal into perspective:
    Buffalo offers:
    Casey Mittelstadt
    Miska Kukkonen
    Branden Davidson
    2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
    For Suzuki.
    Would anyone from Montreal say yes?
    Well that is nearly the same value as you are proposing for JE.
    Kotkaniemi has one more NHL pt than Mittelstadt but played 15 more games
    Fleury has about the chance of playing the NHL as Kukkonen
    Poehling Davidson was selected 12 spots later in the same draft and has about the chance of playing in the NHL
    2021 1st round pick (MTL) nearly equal to Buffalo's 2021 2nd
    2023 1st round pick (MTL) Buffalo 2 seconds maybe more valuable.
    So are the Canadian fans offering Suzuki for Jack Eichel?
    I am sure all MTL fans say this is not the same, yup the offer for Suzuki is bigger.


    Good post.

    Quoting: habsfan00
    no ur wrong


    What's he wrong about? You'd take that deal as a Montreal fan?
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    Jul 19 at 4:11
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Good post.



    What's he wrong about? You'd take that deal as a Montreal fan?


    no i dont
    Jul 19 at 8:59
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    Quoting: gretzkyghosts
    let me put this deal into perspective:
    Buffalo offers:
    Casey Mittelstadt
    Miska Kukkonen
    Branden Davidson
    2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
    2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
    For Suzuki.
    Would anyone from Montreal say yes?
    Well that is nearly the same value as you are proposing for JE.
    Kotkaniemi has one more NHL pt than Mittelstadt but played 15 more games
    Fleury has about the chance of playing the NHL as Kukkonen
    Poehling Davidson was selected 12 spots later in the same draft and has about the chance of playing in the NHL
    2021 1st round pick (MTL) nearly equal to Buffalo's 2021 2nd
    2023 1st round pick (MTL) Buffalo 2 seconds maybe more valuable.
    So are the Canadian fans offering Suzuki for Jack Eichel?
    I am sure all MTL fans say this is not the same, yup the offer for Suzuki is bigger.


    Buddy there is a huge difference between what you're trying to prove about Fleury and Poelhing.

    Poelhing has been the best forward with Laval last year and unlike you say, Fleury was a full time D last year IN MTL, just has been a collateral damage by our depth this year.

    There should be more add up in the mix for sure but it's not far from reality, Eichel won't fetch more than what Karlsson got which is not far about the same MTL would be giving here.
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