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What if it was all planed

Created by: nepTrystan
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Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2021
Published: Jul. 17, 2021
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I've just think of that : What if the plan of MB is simple : let Seattle take Price and then retook him with Seattle retains some money so they can go even more big hunting in return from draft picks and prospect????

And i know the rest i went berserk because why not

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      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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      um what. no thats um... why....?
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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      new jersey declines ,they are already good down the middle
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.
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      Quoting: McSchleep
      new jersey declines ,they are already good down the middle


      that could be any team with a little bit of cap and with a desire of getting young players
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      that could be any team with a little bit of cap and with a desire of getting young players


      fair enough
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      KK would be the Devils 3C. They don't really need him
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:46 p.m.
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      Quoting: habsfan00
      um what. no thats um... why....?


      Idk I wanted to try this xD

      But I don't know if it would be possible, but imagine it was MB plan to Seattle takes Price contract, then returning back toi MTL with retainning some salary against a huge amount of picks and prospects
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:46 p.m.
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      Quoting: Devil1122
      KK would be the Devils 3C. They don't really need him


      I didn't think of the fact that Nj has too many centers.. OOF
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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      Quoting: McSchleep
      fair enough


      I know it's giving on KK, but to get a late 1rst (or on a team out of a playoffs like a 2nd and a little prospect) it helps brigning cap space
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      Idk I wanted to try this xD

      But I don't know if it would be possible, but imagine it was MB plan to Seattle takes Price contract, then returning back toi MTL with retainning some salary against a huge amount of picks and prospects


      Pretty sure thats against the rules. There is a certain time period that needs to go by before a player can be traded back
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.
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      Pretty sure thats against the rules. There is a certain time period that needs to go by before a player can be traded back


      I mean if it's true I didn't remember that rule

      But imagine the case tho x)
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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      Not a fan of the Van trade I think they decline it doesn't move the needle for us drouin isnt worth the contract 2 1st in a couple years that will be late, Gaule is Lhd which is a position of strength for us, Kulak is a cap dump really nothing appetizing for us to move our captain it would have to be a deal to blow us out of the water to move him
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
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      It looks like it's possible. It would be a hell of a shrewd move if Bergevin pulls it off. Basically trading for an extra $5.25M in cap space for 5 years. Definitely wouldn't be cheap tho.
      Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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      Think it’s actually illegal to trade a player back to the team you picked them off of in the Expansion Draft
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.
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      Quoting: theleano1
      Not a fan of the Van trade I think they decline it doesn't move the needle for us drouin isnt worth the contract 2 1st in a couple years that will be late, Gaule is Lhd which is a position of strength for us, Kulak is a cap dump really nothing appetizing for us to move our captain it would have to be a deal to blow us out of the water to move him


      Drouin is a wildcard, we never know.
      Kulak can be good on your team that has a lot of issues with D depth
      Ylonen is a really good prospect don't forget him
      I mean Guhle is a A prospect, you never have too much prospect, and if you do you can trade them for assests that you need
      Understandeable for the draft picks, however we don't know what would happened in the future, maybe you hit a gem

      Btw it was just a fun idea that I have, instead of trying another Eichel trade and get hated by Sabres fans who overestimate his trading value. I could see this trade happened because of the situation, the fact that is a fair price (and also because we'Re talking about bennings)
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.
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      Quoting: brad_habs



      It looks like it's possible. It would be a hell of a shrewd move if Bergevin pulls it off. Basically trading for an extra $5.25M in cap space for 5 years. Definitely wouldn't be cheap tho.


      Maybe i'm a genius and sees the future :P

      Honestly it would be big brain time, probably something like 3 m max of retaint salary vs like a top a prospect, a lot of picks and prospects, didn't want to take all the time choosing the right ones (except the untouchables, like Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov and Primeau)
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      Drouin is a wildcard, we never know.
      Kulak can be good on your team that has a lot of issues with D depth
      Ylonen is a really good prospect don't forget him
      I mean Guhle is a A prospect, you never have too much prospect, and if you do you can trade them for assests that you need
      Understandeable for the draft picks, however we don't know what would happened in the future, maybe you hit a gem

      Btw it was just a fun idea that I have, instead of trying another Eichel trade and get hated by Sabres fans who overestimate his trading value. I could see this trade happened because of the situation, the fact that is a fair price (and also because we'Re talking about bennings)

      Admittedly I dont know much about ylonen so I didnt include him but for Van it's just a bunch of maybe for a garutnee they have so that's why I am saying no i am not going to say its an awful trade, it just doesn't help van making it not worth it
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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      Quoting: theleano1
      Admittedly I dont know much about ylonen so I didnt include him but for Van it's just a bunch of maybe for a garutnee they have so that's why I am saying no i am not going to say its an awful trade, it just doesn't help van making it not worth it


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      I hesitate to put Kotkaniemi instead of a 1rst or Ylonen
      Basically swap them in the deals (it changes the outcome of the other trade but we're not there yet)

      I honestly think that getting these assets will help vancouver in the way that i see them going : fast retooling to go back even more powerfulll with this young core
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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      I hesitate to put Kotkaniemi instead of a 1rst or Ylonen
      Basically swap them in the deals (it changes the outcome of the other trade but we're not there yet)

      I honestly think that getting these assets will help vancouver in the way that i see them going : fast retooling to go back even more powerfulll with this young core


      Like what the habs did back in 2018
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      Top 6 pontential
      I hesitate to put Kotkaniemi instead of a 1rst or Ylonen
      Basically swap them in the deals (it changes the outcome of the other trade but we're not there yet)

      I honestly think that getting these assets will help vancouver in the way that i see them going : fast retooling to go back even more powerfulll with this young core


      The huge issue is we are re tooling here to just re tool it's a huge culture shock to a team to trade the captain, the team is close and it sends the wrong message getting players that can't help win right now, like I said van is adding to position of strength while losing a position of weakness here
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:17 a.m.
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      The huge issue is we are re tooling here to just re tool it's a huge culture shock to a team to trade the captain, the team is close and it sends the wrong message getting players that can't help win right now, like I said van is adding to position of strength while losing a position of weakness here


      I'm againg taking the example of the 2018 habs : They trade their captain and change with younger players .

      And what happened : They almost make the playoffs due to a stack eastenr, and two years later they make to the finals

      The habs when they make the tatar deal they needed a big prospect (Suzuki) the rest was an add (tatar was just a cap dump and he's being good with them)
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:24 a.m.
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      Well I’m not sure the habs should do this, since I don’t believe they need the cap space that badly, but it is certainly what it would cost, and the idea of this trade does fit in with Angela’s post of: ‘Don’t worry guys things will make more sense soon”

      This would be crazy, but it’s certainly a possibility.
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:25 a.m.
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      VAN decline and laugh.
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:27 a.m.
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Well I’m not sure the habs should do this, since I don’t believe they need the cap space that badly, but it is certainly what it would cost, and the idea of this trade does fit in with Angela’s post of: ‘Don’t worry guys things will make more sense soon”

      This would be crazy, but it’s certainly a possibility.


      it would cost prospects and picks, but it will help not only now, but for the future by having CP having less impact on the cap it's huuuuge

      It would be big brain tho
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:30 a.m.
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      Quoting: PeterForsberg21
      VAN decline and laugh.


      explain?

      I don't see either part doing this deal, it was for fun and i'm sure that's an equal deal
      Jul. 18, 2021 at 12:34 a.m.
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      Maybe i'm a genius and sees the future :P

      Honestly it would be big brain time, probably something like 3 m max of retaint salary vs like a top a prospect, a lot of picks and prospects, didn't want to take all the time choosing the right ones (except the untouchables, like Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov and Primeau)


      For 5.25 mil for 5 years there are no untouchables....
       
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