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Trading Johnson with retention

Created by: imawesome
Initial Creation Date: Jul 19, 2021
Published: Jul 19 at 12:40
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
We might have to buy out Johnson. It would hurt, but I think it will be tough to get anyone to take his contract.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Barré-Boulet, Alex2$800,000
Foote, Cal2$900,000
Katchouk, Boris2$750,000
Raddysh, Taylor2$750,000
Colton, Ross3$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dubnyk, Devan1$1,000,000
Trades
TBL
    SEA
    1. Killorn, Alex
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (TBL)
    Additional Details:
    3rd is to not take Gourde
    TBL
    1. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
    Conditional pick.
    Conditions: If Palat gets at least 65 points and the Oilers make the playoffs the pick is a 1st. If not it is a 2022 2nd
    EDM
    1. Palat, Ondrej
    TBL
    1. Reaves, Ryan
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
    3. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
    VGK
    1. Johnson, Tyler ($2,000,000 retained)
    Buyouts
    • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Tyler Johnson: $2,000,000 (40%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    NJD
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    NSH
    NJD
    2022
    TBL
    EDM
    VAN
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    NYR
    2023
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    ANA
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$79,861,788$145,122$0$1,638,212
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TBL
    Barré-Boulet, Alex
    $800,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    TBL
    Point, Brayden
    $6,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Kucherov, Nikita
    $9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    TBL
    Joseph, Mathieu
    $737,500
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    TBL
    Cirelli, Anthony
    $4,800,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Stamkos, Steven
    $8,500,000
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    TBL
    Katchouk, Boris
    $750,000
    LW
    RFA - 3
    TBL
    Gourde, Yanni
    $5,166,666
    C, LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Colton, Ross
    $1,500,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Maroon, Patrick
    $900,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Stephens, Mitchell
    $737,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    VGK
    Reaves, Ryan
    $1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TBL
    Hedman, Victor
    $7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Rutta, Jan
    $1,300,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Vasilevskiy, Andrei
    $9,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TBL
    McDonagh, Ryan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    TBL
    Cernak, Erik
    $2,950,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Dubnyk, Devan
    $1,000,000
    G
    UFA
    TBL
    Sergachev, Mikhail
    $4,800,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Foote, Cal
    $900,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TBL
    Raddysh, Taylor
    $750,000
    RW
    RFA - 3

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    Jul 19 at 12:50
    #1
    Joined: Aug 2019
    Posts: 906
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    I think if the Oilers are going to offer a conditional first, there needs to be a little more in terms of team success in the conditions since Palat is essentially a 1 year rental before he hits UFA. I'd be ok with lowering the point provision to say 60 but changing the playoff condition to winning a round or two.
    imawesome liked this.
    Jul 19 at 12:52
    #2
    PredsWingsFan
    Joined: Jun 2017
    Posts: 277
    Likes: 71
    I think Tampa retaining any salary is a bad business plan for them. In that retention time, you would need to give contracts to Point, Cirelli, Cernack & Sergachev, plus fill out your roster with bodies. That $2M is needed over that time frame. Tampa also is light on picks and has some holes in the pipeline. Giving up picks and retaining salary is again not something they should do. Just my thoughts though.

    In all honesty I think you have to pair up Johnson with someone like:
    1. Alnefelt (Vas is your goalie for the next 8 years, pick up any veteran on the FA market for $2M to back him up)
    2. Joseph or Boulet (figure out which one might be the better for you in the future and let the other go)
    3. Cernack, Gourde or Cirelli (again, you know you wont be able to retain all of these assets long term)

    So you would need to pick either your prospect goalie OR one of your young prospects OR a core player with some upside and money left. But that would help get Johnson off your books without losing picks or retaining.
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    Jul 19 at 12:52
    #3
    Joined: Apr 2021
    Posts: 5,932
    Likes: 2,058
    If the kraken prefer gourde to killorn, you think a 3rd is going to change their mind? Try a first.
    Jul 19 at 1:04
    #4
    Silentfox1
    Joined: Dec 2018
    Posts: 115
    Likes: 33
    IF I was Tampa I would send picks in place of retaining salary. Almost doesn't help them with their cap situation.
    Jul 19 at 8:43
    #5
    Joined: Jul 2019
    Posts: 843
    Likes: 210
    Killorn has far more value to Tampa than this, and Tampa should not be trading him without getting good value in return. If a deal around Johnson to Seattle isn’t reached by Wed morning, so be it. Let Seattle get their one player, whether that be a more expensive F like Palat, Killorn or Gourde, or a younger player like Foote or Joseph. If they do take Gourde, sure it sucks, but then you move Palat for value and just keep Johnson, who is a more than capable 3C or top 6 W. If they take a less expensive younger player, Brisebois still trades Palat for good value, then looks to see what interest there may be in Johnson or what it might cost to move him. If the price isn’t worth it, then you trade Killorn for good value and keep Gourde. Only if Tampa wants to keep the Coleman-Gourde connection going will they need to trade/have selected all 3 of Killorn, Palat and Johnson.
     
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