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Gibson for Hart and cup push

Created by: Kicken_555
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 19, 2021
Published: Jul. 19, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Foligno, Nick2$3,000,000
Rittich, David1$2,250,000
Edler, Alexander2$3,500,000
Glendening, Luke2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Gibson, John
  2. Fleury, Haydn
ANA
  1. Hart, Carter [RFA Rights]
  2. Gostisbehere, Shayne
2.
PHI
    SEA
    1. van Riemsdyk, James
    3.
    PHI
    1. Parayko, Colton
    2. Tarasenko, Vladimir
    STL
    1. Voracek, Jakub ($750,000 retained)
    2. Rubtsov, German
    3. Sanheim, Travis [RFA Rights]
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
    4.
    PHI
    1. 2021 5th round pick (DAL)
    2. 2021 6th round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Hägg, Robert
    5.
    PHI
    1. 2021 5th round pick (OTT)
    2. 2021 6th round pick (DET)
    DET
    1. Braun, Justin
    Buyouts
    • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Jakub Voracek: $750,000 (9.09%)
    • Claude Giroux: $4,137,500 (50%)
    • Derick Brassard: $412,500 (50%)
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$82,933,690$0$1,470,000-$1,433,690
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Giroux, Claude
    $4,137,500
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Couturier, Sean
    $4,333,333
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Farabee, Joel
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Konecny, Travis
    $5,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
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    Hayes, Kevin
    $7,142,857
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Tarasenko, Vladimir
    $7,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Lindblom, Oskar
    $3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
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    Laughton, Scott
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 5
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    Allison, Wade
    $925,000
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    RFA - 1
    Foligno, Nick
    $3,000,000
    LW, C, RW
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    UFA - 2
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    Frost, Morgan
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    $1,075,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Glendening, Luke
    $1,000,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    Foerster, Tyson
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 4
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Provorov, Ivan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
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    Ellis, Ryan
    $6,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
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    Gibson, John
    $6,400,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
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    York, Cam
    $880,833
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    Parayko, Colton
    $5,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Rittich, David
    $2,250,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Edler, Alexander
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Fleury, Haydn
    $1,300,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
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    Sandström, Felix
    $750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Zamula, Yegor
    $756,667
    LD
    RFA - 2

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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
    #1
    mauston_atthews
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    Trading hart would be a big mistake
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
    #2
    AlliDOisBleedBlue
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    Parayko is currently untouchable.
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
    #3
    justaBoss
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    ANA and STL decline pretty easily. And so does Detroit, too.

    DAL probably takes it though.
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
    #4
    vikhodush
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    Gibson & Fleury are better than Hart and Ghost - would have to add picks / prospects for ANA to consider.
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
    #5
    flyersarephilly
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    Why make the window to win shorter?
    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
    #6
    Ragsandbluesfan
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    Ducks decline, Ghost doesn't do anything for them
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
    #7
    Meeqs
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    Gibson for Hart would have been interesting before this previous year but ANA isn't taking that risk at this point. Esp when they have Dostal.

    Para isn't availible

    If you want Tara its through SEA, not STL
    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
    #8
    Ragsandbluesfan
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    Quoting: mauston_atthews
    Trading hart would be a big mistake


    Gibson for Hart*
    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
    #9
    Salzy
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    With Dotsal a year away from the NHL this trade doesn't do enough positive for the Ducks
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
    #10
    PredsWingsFan
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    I think Anaheim, St Louis & Detroit all pass.

    Anaheim- Gibson is consistent and still a good age/ contract mix. since 2016 averaging around 50 games, sub 3 GAA & over .900 Save average... Hart, while a good prospect, really seems like he is shaky at times and inconsistent. Philly would have to send more because they are really trying to just dump Gostisbehere and I personally think him and Fleury even out after age, contract and skills are taken into account. I think Philly still has to toss something else on the table to make this work.

    St Louis - I think they still would want to see more. Like they might entertain a conversation if you change that 2nd round to a 1st round. But then again, If I am Philly, I also dont really like this trade either. Maybe they let Parayko go for a 1st round pick.. then what? Philly gets him for a year and he likely walks for more money somewhere else after that year. And your left holding Tarasenko's contract when he seems to be an injury problem the last few years.

    Detroit - Flat out NO from a team who is rebuilding. Feel free to send Braun and a 3rd rounder to us for Future considerations, but we are not buying a 30+ defenseman on a one year contract when we could use those two picks for the future. We could easily sign Stall to a $2M or $3M deal and keep our picks. Just absolutely no reason for Detroit to make this move (UNLESS KEN HOLLAND WAS STILL GM)
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
    #11
    kevg028
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    yea thats a big no to trading carter hart. cannot make the bobrovsky mistake again
    Jul. 19, 2021 at 1:25 p.m.
    #12
    jwg314
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    Quoting: PredsWingsFan
    I think Anaheim, St Louis & Detroit all pass.

    Anaheim- Gibson is consistent and still a good age/ contract mix. since 2016 averaging around 50 games, sub 3 GAA & over .900 Save average... Hart, while a good prospect, really seems like he is shaky at times and inconsistent. Philly would have to send more because they are really trying to just dump Gostisbehere and I personally think him and Fleury even out after age, contract and skills are taken into account. I think Philly still has to toss something else on the table to make this work.

    St Louis - I think they still would want to see more. Like they might entertain a conversation if you change that 2nd round to a 1st round. But then again, If I am Philly, I also dont really like this trade either. Maybe they let Parayko go for a 1st round pick.. then what? Philly gets him for a year and he likely walks for more money somewhere else after that year. And your left holding Tarasenko's contract when he seems to be an injury problem the last few years.

    Detroit - Flat out NO from a team who is rebuilding. Feel free to send Braun and a 3rd rounder to us for Future considerations, but we are not buying a 30+ defenseman on a one year contract when we could use those two picks for the future. We could easily sign Stall to a $2M or $3M deal and keep our picks. Just absolutely no reason for Detroit to make this move (UNLESS KEN HOLLAND WAS STILL GM)


    For St. Louis, it’s not about the value but more so about where it puts us competitively. Parayko is too important to us right now.
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    Jul. 19, 2021 at 3:28 p.m.
    #13
    Billy12Bob
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    Detroit declines, player not useful.
     
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