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Long term outlook with Eichel

Created by: Aero_Astro_Guy
Initial Creation Date: Jul 19, 2021
Published: Jul 19 at 10:14
Team: 2023-24 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
Need more prospects to blossom. Very tight cap situation
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Johansson, Filip3$900,000
Menell, Brennan2$900,000
Lindberg, Filip2$900,000
Khusnutdinov, Marat3$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fiala, Kevin5$6,666,667
Kaprizov, Kirill5$6,666,667
Boldy, Matthew2$3,100,000
Dewar, Connor2$1,200,000
Addison, Calen2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Sturm, Nico4$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Cossa, Seb3$900,000
Trades
MIN
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Rossi, Marco
  2. Dumba, Matt
  3. Greenway, Jordan [RFA Rights]
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
    SEA
    1. Kähkönen, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
    Buyouts
    • Zach Parise: $7,371,794
    • Ryan Suter: $7,371,794
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    MIN
    PIT
    MIN
    PIT
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2022
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$81,282,756$0$0$217,244
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MIN
    Fiala, Kevin
    $6,666,667
    LW, RW
    RFA
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    $10,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $6,666,667
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Boldy, Matthew
    $3,100,000
    C
    RFA
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $5,250,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Zuccarello, Mats
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    $3,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Khusnutdinov, Marat
    $900,000
    C
    RFA
    MIN
    Hartman, Ryan
    $1,700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Beckman, Adam
    $894,167
    LW
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    $1,500,000
    C
    UFA
    MIN
    Dewar, Connor
    $1,200,000
    LW
    RFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    $6,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    $7,575,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Lindberg, Filip
    $900,000
    G
    RFA
    MIN
    O'Rourke, Ryan
    $886,667
    LD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Addison, Calen
    $1,500,000
    RD
    RFA
    Cossa, Seb
    $900,000
    MIN
    Menell, Brennan
    $900,000
    D
    RFA
    MIN
    Johansson, Filip
    $900,000
    RD
    RFA

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    Jul 19 at 10:16
    #1
    V4 Oilers GM and BOG
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    not worth it. this team sucks. didn't even pay krill enough
    Jul 19 at 10:17
    #2
    Shibbal18
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    The Sabres dont want Dumba
    Jul 19 at 10:18
    #3
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    aeroastro.MN
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    not worth it. this team sucks. didn't even pay krill enough


    He s not getting more than Patrnak for his 2nd contract, 2nd , and after 1 shortened season in the league
    Jul 19 at 10:20
    #4
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    He s not getting more than Patrnak for his 2nd contract, 2nd , and after 1 shortened season in the league


    I bet you he does.

    I also enjoyed Lindberg as the starting goalie despite his agent giving Guerin a notice that they're not going to sign here.
    Jul 19 at 10:21
    #5
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    Sell off everything at this point. No cap, no goalies, and a weak d-corps.
    Jul 19 at 10:22
    #6
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    aeroastro.MN
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    Quoting: Caerii
    I bet you he does.

    I also enjoyed Lindberg as the starting goalie despite his agent giving Guerin a notice that they're not going to sign here.


    1) This is 3 yrs from now

    2) After i ve seen all the expansion lists, I am sure that Kahk is taken and this might convince Lindberg to stay.
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    Jul 19 at 10:23
    #7
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    1) This is 3 yrs from now

    2) After i ve seen all the expansion lists, I am sure that Kahk is taken and this might convince Lindberg to stay.


    He's just a couple weeks from being a free agent. He's not staying. Doesn't matter if it's tomorrow or three years from now.
    Jul 19 at 10:25
    #8
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    aeroastro.MN
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    Quoting: Caerii
    He's just a couple weeks from being a free agent. He's not staying. Doesn't matter if it's tomorrow or three years from now.


    how does him being a free agent prevents him signing with a team with the hole in a goal
    Jul 19 at 10:25
    #9
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    how does him being a free agent prevents him signing with a team with the hole in a goal


    Why would he sign here, when he's leaving because he doesn't want to sign here? Do you think he's leaving because we're too deep in goal for him to win a spot (as you draft Cossa with a 1st rounder)?
    Jul 19 at 10:27
    #10
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    aeroastro.MN
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    Quoting: Caerii
    Why would he sign here, when he's leaving because he doesn't want to sign here? Do you think he's leaving because we're too deep in goal for him to win a spot (as you draft Cossa with a 1st rounder)?


    I heard that he wants to play, then here are his NHL minutes
    Jul 19 at 10:28
    #11
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    I heard that he wants to play, then here are his NHL minutes


    He's not going straight to the NHL no matter where he signs. He has no NHL minutes this year, anywhere.

    And his agent has already given the notice. It's extremely unlikely they take it back just because Kahkonen gets taken in the expansion draft.
    Jul 19 at 10:30
    #12
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    aeroastro.MN
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    Quoting: Caerii
    He's not going straight to the NHL no matter where he signs. He has no NHL minutes this year, anywhere.

    And his agent has already given the notice. It's extremely unlikely they take it back just because Kahkonen gets taken in the expansion draft.


    GMBG might pull out this card. It is his duty ro retain players whom we want in long term. Without a solid goalie prospect him getting Eichel would be just a truly stupid decision
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    Jul 19 at 10:30
    #13
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    So here’s the thing. I don’t think Eichel alone will make up for the sacrifices that need to be made to get him. This team assumes every prospect drafted in 2020/2019 will hit and that WILL NOT happen. The other thing is that defense looks atrocious.

    All this is too say Eichel ain’t worth it and the sooner the team decides which 2 of Kirill/Fiala/Dumba they want to keep, the better.
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    Jul 19 at 10:31
    #14
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    getting Eichel would be just a truly stupid decision


    Yeah, it would be
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    Jul 19 at 10:31
    #15
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    aeroastro.MN
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    So here’s the thing. I don’t think Eichel alone will make up for the sacrifices that need to be made to get him. This team assumes every prospect drafted in 2020/2019 will hit and that WILL NOT happen. The other thing is that defense looks atrocious.

    All this is too say Eichel ain’t worth it and the sooner the team decides which 2 of Kirill/Fiala/Dumba they want to keep, the better.


    That is what i tried to prove here
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    Jul 19 at 10:34
    #16
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    He s not getting more than Patrnak for his 2nd contract, 2nd , and after 1 shortened season in the league


    Pasta's deal: 8.89% cap hit (when signed) and ends when he's 27. To make Kaprizov's deal similar in cap hit % and age when it ends it would be a $7.25m x 3 deal. Kaprizov also has MN over a barrel, and an agent that knows this and will take full advantage of it.
    Jul 19 at 10:34
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    That is what i tried to prove here


    Putting it on paper really confirms that. But as down as I sound on the prospects, I really think we are gonna be in good shape during those last years to figure out who sinks and who swims.
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    Jul 19 at 10:36
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    Quoting: wabit
    Pasta's deal: 8.89% cap hit (when signed) and ends when he's 27. To make Kaprizov's deal similar in cap hit % and age when it ends it would be a $7.25m x 3 deal. Kaprizov also has MN over a barrel, and an agent that knows this and will take full advantage of it.


    How does Kaprizov have Minnesota over a barrel when he can't go to arbitration, can't sign an offer sheet, and is a RFA for three more years? The KHL isn't a legitimate threat.
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    Jul 19 at 10:36
    #19
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    Quoting: wabit
    Pasta's deal: 8.89% cap hit (when signed) and ends when he's 27. To make Kaprizov's deal similar in cap hit % and age when it ends it would be a $7.25m x 3 deal. Kaprizov also has MN over a barrel, and an agent that knows this and will take full advantage of it.


    That is not our fault that he came to the NHL later. We have a precedent and we should use it in our favour
    Jul 19 at 10:42
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    GMBG might pull out this card. It is his duty ro retain players whom we want in long term. Without a solid goalie prospect him getting Eichel would be just a truly stupid decision


    I wouldn't call many of the moves GMBG has done as smart moves. He inherited a young team, a quality prospect pool, and not a huge cap problem. Now it's this mess he's made.
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    Jul 19 at 10:51
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    That is not our fault that he came to the NHL later. We have a precedent and we should use it in our favour


    Precedent for what? Having an award winning franchise player on the Wild?

    The only precedent MN has is firing a GM who wouldn't give a player a contract (Fenton/Spurgeon). Seriously, if it came down to Karpizov not signing because he didn't get a contract he liked, or the GMBG still having a job. I'd put money on the player over the GM being in MN next year.
    Jul 19 at 11:00
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    Quoting: Caerii
    How does Kaprizov have Minnesota over a barrel when he can't go to arbitration, can't sign an offer sheet, and is a RFA for three more years? The KHL isn't a legitimate threat.


    How is the KHL not a legitimate threat? He can go be a superstar in his home country and win something while MN burns next season.

    Or he can pull a Nylander and go play the start of the season overseas. He'll be putting up great stats wherever he is, while MN is spinning it tires near the bottom of the Central without him.
    Jul 19 at 11:21
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    Quoting: wabit
    Sell off everything at this point. No cap, no goalies, and a weak d-corps.


    Yeah, this is my concern with Eichel. We could get him, but we have no team left when we do with the dead cap
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    Jul 19 at 11:53
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    Quoting: Wildwinswhen
    Yeah, this is my concern with Eichel. We could get him, but we have no team left when we do with the dead cap


    I think Zucc would be dumped somewhere and Spurgeon boughtout to free up another $11m or so at this point; that would buy you a goalie ($3m) and 2 d-man ($4m/each).

    I wouldn't be too concerned about the FWDs (assuming Rossi and Greenway are gone):
    xxx/Eichel/Kaprizov (they'll be able to carry a 3rd FWD)
    Boldy/JEE/Fiala
    Foligno/xxx/Hartman (probably the 4th line)
    xxx/xxx/xxx
    Guessing 2-3 current prospects fill the xxx spots for cheap. McBain isn't included here, but I think he has a shot as a bottom-6er still

    Brodin/Menell
    xxx/Addison
    xxx/xxx
    Guessing 1 prospect fills a xxx spot, MN seems to be able to turn in something into nothing for d-men so it might fill another xxx spot. One of Addison or Menell really needs to turn into something though.

    xxx
    xxx
    No clue on this. They have currently have some decent goalie prospects, but I couldn't say if any of them were even going to turn into NHL backup quality. Goalies are just so hard to predict.
    Jul 20 at 6:52
    #25
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    He s not getting more than Patrnak for his 2nd contract, 2nd , and after 1 shortened season in the league


    he is I guarentee it to you
     
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