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Reinhart

Created by: EddieShore
Initial Creation Date: Jul 20, 2021
Published: Jul 20 at 4:18
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Yamamoto, Kailer1$1,850,000
Reinhart, Sam7$5,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Smith, Mike2$1,750,000
Larsson, Adam5$3,750,000
Tatar, Tomas1$3,250,000
Hamonic, Travis2$2,100,000
Nosek, Tomas2$1,500,000
Armia, Joel3$2,000,000
Ennis, Tyler1$900,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
BUF
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Koskinen, Mikko
  3. Lavoie, Raphael
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2021 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
2022 2nd is conditional. If the Oilers make cup final and Reinhardt scores 25+ goals it becomes 2022 1st
EDM
  1. Jarry, Tristan
PIT
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
Buried
  • Kyle Turris: $525,000 ($1,650,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2023
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,475,635$669,339$57,500$24,365
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 8
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
Tatar, Tomas
$3,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 4
Reinhart, Sam
$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Armia, Joel
$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,850,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Ennis, Tyler
$900,000
C, LW, RW
UFA
Nosek, Tomas
$1,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
EDM
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$3,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
EDM
Smith, Mike
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 2
EDM
Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Hamonic, Travis
$2,100,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Lagesson, William
$725,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Jul 20 at 4:26
#1
Leafs 4 Lyfe
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Rienhart decline
Larsson signs with the canucks
Jul 20 at 4:30
#2
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EddieShore
Joined: Jan 2020
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Quoting: Juggin_Pav
Rienhart decline
Larsson signs with the canucks


Whats your issue with Reinhart? The trade or the money?

I also havent seen one single Larsson to Vancouver rumor, if he doesnt sign in Edmonton he's going to Seattle or somewhere on the east coast. I offered him a lower AAV here but gave him 5 years, which I doubt anyone else is going to do.
Jul 20 at 5:09
#3
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Quoting: EddieShore
Whats your issue with Reinhart? The trade or the money?

I also havent seen one single Larsson to Vancouver rumor, if he doesnt sign in Edmonton he's going to Seattle or somewhere on the east coast. I offered him a lower AAV here but gave him 5 years, which I doubt anyone else is going to do.


Need to throw in a first
Jul 20 at 5:23
#4
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EddieShore
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Quoting: Juggin_Pav
Need to throw in a first


Report is they are more interested in NHL ready prospects than draft picks
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Jul 20 at 6:24
#5
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Quoting: EddieShore
Report is they are more interested in NHL ready prospects than draft picks


I don't love the Reinhart move or hate it for the Sabres. At least the pieces make sense (thank you for not including an LD!). The only thing holding it back iw lack of one top tier piece (Bouchard and Lavoie are nice pieces but not centerpieces).

Reasonable and the Sabres should take it if it's the best offer on the table but could get outbid by a deal centered around a better prospect or top 10 pick (e.g. Vancouver's 1st plus Kole of Seattle doesn't take him beats this).
Jul 20 at 7:07
#6
Joined: May 2019
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Reinhart for Holloway and Bouchard would be acceptable to me, Lavoie from some things I've read might need more veteran leadership than the Sabres have and Koskinen has no appeal, no need for those draft picks.
Jul 20 at 8:03
#7
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good luck on trying to find someone to take that cap dump Kassian.
I know the EDM media tried hard to tell people he's available.
But then the sad reality that no one wants him on their team sunk in.
Jul 20 at 8:10
#8
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Quoting: pharrow
good luck on trying to find someone to take that cap dump Kassian.
I know the EDM media tried hard to tell people he's available.
But then the sad reality that no one wants him on their team sunk in.


Seravalli isn't "Edmonton media", he lives in Philadelphia, PA.

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/07/rumor-edmonton-oilers-may-trade-zack.html
Jul 20 at 8:20
#9
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Quoting: CD282
Seravalli isn't "Edmonton media", he lives in Philadelphia, PA.

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/07/rumor-edmonton-oilers-may-trade-zack.html


He wasn't the only one.
When you take a philly troll seriously
Jul 20 at 8:23
#10
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I'd rather have cost-controlled Bouchard and Lavoie than Reinhart. You can get $6M wingers in free agency, you can't find elite young players on their ELC unless you draft them. Bouchard is ready to play now, Lavoie will be in the NHL by the following season.
Jul 20 at 8:41
#11
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Quoting: pharrow
He wasn't the only one.
When you take a philly troll seriously


Glad to see you admitting you were wrong. It's the first step.
Jul 20 at 8:53
#12
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Quoting: CD282
Glad to see you admitting you were wrong. It's the first step.


so your claiming there was no EDM media who echo chambered that fake news?
Jul 20 at 9:42
#13
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Quoting: pharrow
so your claiming there was no EDM media who echo chambered that fake news?


Is it fake news? How would you know? tears of joy
Jul 20 at 10:12
#14
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Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
I don't love the Reinhart move or hate it for the Sabres. At least the pieces make sense (thank you for not including an LD!). The only thing holding it back iw lack of one top tier piece (Bouchard and Lavoie are nice pieces but not centerpieces).

Reasonable and the Sabres should take it if it's the best offer on the table but could get outbid by a deal centered around a better prospect or top 10 pick (e.g. Vancouver's 1st plus Kole of Seattle doesn't take him beats this).


Interesting take. Bouchard was a top-10 pick who played limited minutes last year due to Edmonton's right side depth and still put up world class numbers. Of all defensemen to play at least 150 minutes at 5v5 last year (244 players), Bouchard's 1.27 P/60 ranked 18th. He's an elite offensive creator, even as a rookie.

Oh, and don't try to pin this on McDavid. Bouchard barely played with him and actually scored more with Turris, Ennis and Chiasson.

Here's what I mean about offensive creation:

Shots/60
Evan Bouchard: 11.4
Rasmus Dahlin: 4.8

ixG/60
EB: 0.37
RD: 0.27

iCF/60
EB: 20.27
RD: 8.87

CF/60 Rel
EB: +10.96
RD: +3.67

SF/60 Rel
EB: +4.56
RD: +2.70

I'm not saying he's better than Dahlin, I'm just pointing out that he's an elite talent. He absolutely is enough to centerpiece a trade like this - enough so that I wouldn't do it. The Oilers are far better off having an elite offensive defenseman who costs <$900k and getting a Reinhart facsimile via free agency.
Jul 20 at 2:30
#15
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EddieShore
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Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
I don't love the Reinhart move or hate it for the Sabres. At least the pieces make sense (thank you for not including an LD!). The only thing holding it back iw lack of one top tier piece (Bouchard and Lavoie are nice pieces but not centerpieces).

Reasonable and the Sabres should take it if it's the best offer on the table but could get outbid by a deal centered around a better prospect or top 10 pick (e.g. Vancouver's 1st plus Kole of Seattle doesn't take him beats this).



If you think Kole is a better prospect than Bouchard you’re absolutely off your rocker. If he were a good prospect he would have been protected for expansion.
Jul 20 at 3:20
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Quoting: EddieShore
Yes and reinhart for a seventh would be acceptable to me, but I live on planet earth and don’t say dumb things,


OK with the trade you offered you know Koskinen is a cap dump, right, I mean you aren't pretending he's an asset are you? and you know Lavoie has had some on ice and off ice questionable decision making, right ? I mean you are an Oiler fan - the only thing of decent value in your trade was Bouchard and while he's too young to be called a bust he hasn't lived up to expectations yet.
Jul 20 at 3:58
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Quoting: CD282
Is it fake news? How would you know? tears of joy


common sense?
I guess it's not so common tears of joy

Enjoy carrying Kassian on your cap next year!
Jul 20 at 4:40
#18
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Quoting: pharrow
common sense?
I guess it's not so common tears of joy

Enjoy carrying Kassian on your cap next year!


I don't have a problem with Kassian on the cap. He's paid like a 3rd liner and he's a very good 3rd liner when healthy. Not sure why you'd think that would bother me, but apparently you do.

Have a nice day.
Jul 20 at 4:44
#19
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Quoting: CD282
I don't have a problem with Kassian on the cap. He's paid like a 3rd liner and he's a very good 3rd liner when healthy. Not sure why you'd think that would bother me, but apparently you do.

Have a nice day.


uh huh tears of joy
 
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