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Created by: DH28Hockey
Initial Creation Date: Jul 21, 2021
Published: Jul 21 at 1:58
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hart, Carter3$3,000,000
Sanheim, Travis5$4,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan3$3,500,000
Stepan, Derek1$1,000,000
Savard, David3$3,500,000
Trades
PHI
    SEA
    1. Voracek, Jakub
    2. Hägg, Robert
    3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
    PHI
    1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($3,750,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Seattle retaining
    STL
    1. van Riemsdyk, James
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (PHI)
    PHI
      SEA
        Carsen Twarynski
        Buyouts
        • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
        DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
        2021
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        VGK
        PHI
        PHI
        2022
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        STL
        2023
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        PHI
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$81,500,000$75,902,023$0$1,470,000$5,597,977
        Left WingCenterRight Wing
        PHI
        Farabee, Joel
        $925,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        PHI
        Couturier, Sean
        $4,333,333
        C
        UFA - 1
        STL
        Tarasenko, Vladimir
        $3,750,000
        RW
        NTC
        UFA - 2
        PHI
        Giroux, Claude
        $8,275,000
        LW, C, RW
        NMC
        UFA - 1
        PHI
        Hayes, Kevin
        $7,142,857
        C
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        PHI
        Konecny, Travis
        $5,500,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 4
        PHI
        Lindblom, Oskar
        $3,000,000
        LW
        RFA - 2
        PHI
        Frost, Morgan
        $863,333
        C
        RFA - 1
        PHI
        Allison, Wade
        $925,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        PHI
        Laughton, Scott
        $3,000,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 5
        Stepan, Derek
        $1,000,000
        C
        UFA - 1
        PHI
        Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
        $1,075,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        PHI
        Provorov, Ivan
        $6,750,000
        LD
        UFA - 4
        PHI
        Ellis, Ryan
        $6,250,000
        RD
        UFA - 6
        PHI
        Hart, Carter
        $3,000,000
        G
        RFA - 3
        PHI
        Sanheim, Travis
        $4,250,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
        Savard, David
        $3,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 4
        Bernier, Jonathan
        $3,500,000
        G
        UFA - 2
        PHI
        Gostisbehere, Shayne
        $4,500,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
        PHI
        Braun, Justin
        $1,800,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        PHI
        York, Cam
        $880,833
        LD
        RFA - 2
        PHI
        Laczynski, Tanner
        $925,000
        C
        RFA - 1
        PHI
        Zamula, Yegor
        $756,667
        LD
        RFA - 2

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        Jul 21 at 2:00
        #1
        KFTW
        Joined: Jul 2018
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        Interested in a Voracek for Dadonov swap?
        Jul 21 at 2:02
        #2
        Joined: Aug 2020
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        I do think it would be a smart move for seattle to take tarasenko and flip him, although i dont see JVR being the piece they would do that far. would make more since that it was for a pick/prospect package, otherwise just take jvr in the first place and take dunn instead of tarasenko. from the blues.
        Jul 21 at 2:03
        #3
        Go Wings Go
        Joined: Jun 2016
        Posts: 32,307
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        James van Riemsdyk 2 x $7,000,000 Vladimir Tarasenko 2 x $7,500,000 No freaking way is Doug Armstrong retaining 2 x $3,750,000 on Tarasenko for that offer.
        Jul 21 at 2:04
        #4
        Joined: Jan 2017
        Posts: 4,838
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        Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
        I do think it would be a smart move for seattle to take tarasenko and flip him, although i dont see JVR being the piece they would do that far. would make more since that it was for a pick/prospect package, otherwise just take jvr in the first place and take dunn instead of tarasenko. from the blues.


        No need to worry because Seattle took Dunn
        Jul 21 at 2:04
        #5
        Thread Starter
        Joined: May 2019
        Posts: 1,135
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        Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
        James van Riemsdyk 2 x $7,000,000 Vladimir Tarasenko 2 x $7,500,000 No freaking way is Doug Armstrong retaining 2 x $3,750,000 on Tarasenko for that offer.


        read the trade...
        Jul 21 at 2:05
        #6
        Joined: Jul 2016
        Posts: 12,687
        Likes: 2,713
        Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
        James van Riemsdyk 2 x $7,000,000 Vladimir Tarasenko 2 x $7,500,000 No freaking way is Doug Armstrong retaining 2 x $3,750,000 on Tarasenko for that offer.


        Maybe you should try and be a less angry person and read the trade fully before losing your ****!
        Jul 21 at 2:05
        #7
        Joined: Jul 2016
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        Quoting: Chopper02
        No need to worry because Seattle took Dunn


        Side deals could definitely still be made.
        Jul 21 at 2:06
        #8
        Thread Starter
        Joined: May 2019
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        Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
        I do think it would be a smart move for seattle to take tarasenko and flip him, although i dont see JVR being the piece they would do that far. would make more since that it was for a pick/prospect package, otherwise just take jvr in the first place and take dunn instead of tarasenko. from the blues.


        Basically what this is:

        -St.Louis sends Seattle Tarasenko for nothing

        -Flyers send JVR and a 2nd to St.Louis for nothing

        -Seattle retains half of Tarasenko, sends him to Philly for Voracek 13OA and Hagg
        Jul 21 at 2:07
        #9
        Thread Starter
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        Quoting: csick
        Interested in a Voracek for Dadonov swap?


        Honestly, probably not. I don't see the 3 million and 1 year in savings being worth that heavy of a decline in production. Maybe a package could be revolved around those 2, but not a 1 for 1
        Jul 21 at 2:08
        #10
        Go Wings Go
        Joined: Jun 2016
        Posts: 32,307
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        Quoting: DirtyDangles
        Maybe you should try and be a less angry person and read the trade fully before losing your ****!


        Right because Ron Francis is going to retain 50% on Tarasenko. if that were the case Francis would've taken Tarasenko instead of Dunn and then flipped him at 50% which he didn't so he's not going to retain Armstrong would.
        Jul 21 at 2:12
        #11
        KFTW
        Joined: Jul 2018
        Posts: 23,509
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        Quoting: DH28Hockey
        Honestly, probably not. I don't see the 3 million and 1 year in savings being worth that heavy of a decline in production. Maybe a package could be revolved around those 2, but not a 1 for 1


        I think the 3 million is huge. Dadonov’s issue wasn’t a lack of production, he just didn’t play with enough skill. He’s not a great possession player so he needs a top player to play with
        Jul 21 at 2:18
        #12
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        Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
        Right because Ron Francis is going to retain 50% on Tarasenko. if that were the case Francis would've taken Tarasenko instead of Dunn and then flipped him at 50% which he didn't so he's not going to retain Armstrong would.


        Or he can take Dunn and then be the middle man for a deal like above and get the 13th OA pick to retain some money for a few years. Maybe it's not 50% but this is definitely an option.
         
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