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Finding a 1C Jack Eichel

Created by: Oilers4Days
Initial Creation Date: Jul 21, 2021
Published: Jul 21 at 4:18
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Danault, Phillip4$4,500,000
Perry, Corey1$750,000
Janmark, Mattias4$2,250,000
Galchenyuk, Alex1$1,000,000
Kuraly, Sean1$1,000,000
Ceci, Cody1$1,000,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Eichel, Jack
Additional Details:
The 2021 1st Rounder is pretty low, very low. So I have to add a 6th rounder from this year too.

Then I send a 1+2 round pick from next year, that should be good value.
BUF
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Romanov, Alexander
  3. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [RFA Rights]
  4. Poehling, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
  6. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  7. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
  8. 2021 6th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
If u guys think MTL needs to add, I could add Kaiden Guhle.
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
MTL
TBL
CHI
WSH
MTL
STL
VGK
PHI
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$80,782,203$597,561$837,500$717,797

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$4,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 6
Janmark, Mattias
$2,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Caufield, Cole
$880,833
RW, C
RFA - 2
Galchenyuk, Alex
$1,000,000
LW, C, RW
UFA
Kuraly, Sean
$1,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Perry, Corey
$750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$6,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5
MTL
Allen, Jake
$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
Ceci, Cody
$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Toffoli, T.
Eichel, J.
Gallagher, B.
Anderson, J.
Petry, J.
Power Play 2
Byron, P.
Danault, P.
Anderson, J.
Kuraly, S.
Weber, S.
Penalty Kill 1
Danault, P.
Anderson, J.
Chiarot, B.
Petry, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Danault, P.
Suzuki, N.
Edmundson, J.
Weber, S.

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Jul 21 at 4:20
#1
Go Wings Go
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Take out Kotkaniemi and add Suzuki, And maybe Buffalo thinks about it.
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Jul 21 at 4:27
#2
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Jack Eichel is not worth giving up our future players. He has one season of scoring 30+ goals. He's not a guy that is worth what Buffalo is asking.
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Jul 21 at 4:35
#3
Shibbal18
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Quality>Quantity Sabres need forwards not dmen
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Jul 21 at 4:42
#4
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Quoting: Ecto
Jack Eichel is not worth giving up our future players. He has one season of scoring 30+ goals. He's not a guy that is worth what Buffalo is asking.


It makes me laugh...Eichels not worth this and Eichels not worth that yet everybody wants to trade for him. Future players? Eichel is 24, not in his 30's...it's going to take some future players, he is a 1C.
Eichel wants out and the Sabres want him gone but the reality is they don't have to trade him no matter how much he throws a tantrum.
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Jul 21 at 4:42
#5
Stripes77
Joined: May 2019
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Quoting: Ecto
Jack Eichel is not worth giving up our future players. He has one season of scoring 30+ goals. He's not a guy that is worth what Buffalo is asking.


He is a point per game player...I agree with you there is a balance ever team needs to have when making a trade for him, but to say he isn't worth it is a huge stretch
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Jul 21 at 4:57
#6
MTL
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 187
Likes: 41
Quoting: Stripes77
He is a point per game player...I agree with you there is a balance ever team needs to have when making a trade for him, but to say he isn't worth it is a huge stretch


Rigth now with is injury, No he is cleary not worthit, but before i would'v said yes
Jul 21 at 5:07
#7
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Quoting: Zekelio
Rigth now with is injury, No he is cleary not worthit, but before i would'v said yes


I honestly think Eichel going public about wanting surgery and the team saying no was the way to create the wedge to get himself traded...I think once traded it will disappear and only brought up by the press. JMO
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Jul 22 at 8:00
#8
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Quality>Quantity Sabres need forwards not dmen


Jesperi Kotkaniemi and Jake Evans are forwards with great potential that are in the trade.

Romanov and Poehling are defencemen that look to be very good. The Sabres might not need them currently, but in a few years these guys could be amazing for the Sabres.

When you say quality>quantity, I didn't just overload players into the trade. I thought a lot about who to add and the picks especially I thought about.

I think I added really good value in the draft picks, and added really good prospects that have potential.

I think this trade might be more than what Buffalo gets IRL. I don't think GM's would give up this much.
Jul 22 at 8:05
#9
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Lenny54
It makes me laugh...Eichels not worth this and Eichels not worth that yet everybody wants to trade for him. Future players? Eichel is 24, not in his 30's...it's going to take some future players, he is a 1C.
Eichel wants out and the Sabres want him gone but the reality is they don't have to trade him no matter how much he throws a tantrum.


You have to understand any Jack Eichel trade right now is going to be a loss for the Sabres.

Eichel has the potential to be a franchise player, but his career has been wasted in Buffalo.

Now, Eichel wants out. Which is why Buffalo are bringing Eichel into the market. So, Buffalo doesn't have much leverage in the trade proposals. They're the ones shopping Eichel. They won't get the perfect trade they want. They're trying to get rid of Eichel. They won't have much leverage in what they want.

His value is at an all time low right now. Whatever team acquires Eichel is going to win. And Buffalo is going to lose. Buffalo might even get less than what my trade looked like.
Jul 22 at 8:05
#10
Shibbal18
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Quoting: Oilers4Days
Jesperi Kotkaniemi and Jake Evans are forwards with great potential that are in the trade.

Romanov and Poehling are defencemen that look to be very good. The Sabres might not need them currently, but in a few years these guys could be amazing for the Sabres.

When you say quality>quantity, I didn't just overload players into the trade. I thought a lot about who to add and the picks especially I thought about.

I think I added really good value in the draft picks, and added really good prospects that have potential.

I think this trade might be more than what Buffalo gets IRL. I don't think GM's would give up this much.


Evans is a bottom 6 forward, I like him but his value isnt in the ballpark of Eichel, KK is a Mittelstadt, the Sabres have a Mittelstadt, all of the quality comes from the Dmen and the Sabres dont need them, the Sabres dont need PP QBs when they draft Power and have Dahlin. The Sabres, after drafting Power, will have 9 dmen under the age of 24 that are potential NHLers. If anything they need Veteran Defensive Dmen or 2way dmen
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Jul 22 at 8:05
#11
Shibbal18
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Quoting: Oilers4Days
You have to understand any Jack Eichel trade right now is going to be a loss for the Sabres.

Eichel has the potential to be a franchise player, but his career has been wasted in Buffalo.

Now, Eichel wants out. Which is why Buffalo are bringing Eichel into the market. So, Buffalo doesn't have much leverage in the trade proposals. They're the ones shopping Eichel. They won't get the perfect trade they want. They're trying to get rid of Eichel. They won't have much leverage in what they want.

His value is at an all time low right now. Whatever team acquires Eichel is going to win. And Buffalo is going to lose. Buffalo might even get less than what my trade looked like.


No, Adams isnt going to trade him for a loss
Jul 22 at 8:07
#12
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Evans is a bottom 6 forward, I like him but his value isnt in the ballpark of Eichel, KK is a Mittelstadt, the Sabres have a Mittelstadt, all of the quality comes from the Dmen and the Sabres dont need them, the Sabres dont need PP QBs when they draft Power and have Dahlin. The Sabres, after drafting Power, will have 9 dmen under the age of 24 that are potential NHLers. If anything they need Veteran Defensive Dmen or 2way dmen


I understand that.

Maybe replace Kk with Suzuki? I don't think Caufield is going anywhere, but I do think the defencemen can have an impact. Power won't come straight into the NHL and Dahlin has struggled.
Jul 22 at 8:09
#13
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Quoting: Shibbal18
No, Adams isnt going to trade him for a loss


They're losing their franchise player. It's a pretty big loss.

Unless one of the draft picks turn out insane. The players he's going to get are going to be good players, but not as good as Eichel.
Jul 24 at 12:25
#14
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Quoting: Oilers4Days
You have to understand any Jack Eichel trade right now is going to be a loss for the Sabres.

Eichel has the potential to be a franchise player, but his career has been wasted in Buffalo.

Now, Eichel wants out. Which is why Buffalo are bringing Eichel into the market. So, Buffalo doesn't have much leverage in the trade proposals. They're the ones shopping Eichel. They won't get the perfect trade they want. They're trying to get rid of Eichel. They won't have much leverage in what they want.

His value is at an all time low right now. Whatever team acquires Eichel is going to win. And Buffalo is going to lose. Buffalo might even get less than what my trade looked like.


When was the last time a 1C was made available in his prime? It doesn't happen. You have to pay. I will agree that the sabres lose the trade hands down but that doesn't mean they have to take a pile of garbage. JK, RP and JE DO NOT have top 6 written on them, they've had their chance with Montreal and didn't cut it that's why they you are including them as failed dumps. It starts with one of Suzuki/Caufield, 22 1st unprotected and a couple of other decent pieces.
 
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