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Petterson offer sheet P2

Created by: mnwild17
Initial Creation Date: Jul 21, 2021
Published: Jul 21 at 5:09
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
2nd year if Petterson were to get offersheeted by us, would be cutting it close but hopefully after next year cap will go up by a million.

Link to Year 1:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2592724
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Menell, Brennan3$1,500,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fiala, Kevin3$6,000,000
Kaprizov, Kirill4$7,000,000
Pettersson, Elias4$10,276,000
Kähkönen, Kaapo3$2,200,000
Greenway, Jordan3$3,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cole, Ian1$2,400,000
McCabe, Jake1$2,000,000
Bjugstad, Nick1$900,000
Sturm, Nico3$1,400,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
ELC, 1st rd pick 2021 13$850,000
ELC, 1st rd pick 2021 23$850,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Pettersson, Elias$10,276,000
2022 1st round pick
2022 2nd round pick
2022 3rd round pick
2023 1st round pick
Trades
MIN
    SEA
    1. Soucy, Carson
    MIN
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
    ANA
    1. Dumba, Matt
    Additional Details:
    Anywhere, Value is probs low here but just for cap purposes
    MIN
    1. 2021 6th round pick (ANA)
    ANA
    1. Zuccarello, Mats
    Additional Details:
    Anywhere, probably for a B prospect or C+ prospect
    Buyouts
    • Zach Parise: $6,371,794
    • Ryan Suter: $6,371,794
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    MIN
    PIT
    MIN
    MIN
    PIT
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ANA
    MIN
    2022
    ANA
    MIN
    MIN
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$81,262,089$0$1,565,000$237,911
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MIN
    Fiala, Kevin
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    Pettersson, Elias
    $10,276,000
    C
    RFA
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $7,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Boldy, Matthew
    $880,833
    C
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Rossi, Marco
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Greenway, Jordan
    $3,200,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    $3,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $5,250,000
    C
    UFA - 7
    MIN
    Hartman, Ryan
    $1,700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Beckman, Adam
    $894,167
    LW
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    $1,400,000
    C
    UFA
    MIN
    Bjugstad, Nick
    $900,000
    C, RW
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    $6,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    $7,575,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MIN
    Talbot, Cam
    $3,666,667
    G
    UFA - 1
    McCabe, Jake
    $2,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Addison, Calen
    $795,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    $2,200,000
    G
    RFA
    MIN
    Cole, Ian
    $2,400,000
    LD/RD
    UFA
    MIN
    Menell, Brennan
    $1,500,000
    D
    RFA
    MIN
    O'Rourke, Ryan
    $886,667
    LD
    RFA - 2

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    Jul 21 at 5:14
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    VAN matches, honestly he probably doesn't even sign that. He's probably looking at 8 years.
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    Jul 21 at 5:17
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    Matt dumba isn't getting traded
    Mats Zuccarello isn't waiving

    It's bizarre how some want wild to get rid of Dumba
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    Jul 21 at 5:17
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    Quoting: pharrow
    VAN matches, honestly he probably doesn't even sign that. He's probably looking at 8 years.


    If Van matches they would be in Cap Hell. They would be left with 5 million in cap space this year with only 16 players signed. They also have 6.5M on LTIR not counting against their cap at the moment so they would be essentially over the cap, unless those are injuries that will keep those guys out next year as well. Either way they would either have negative cap space, or 5m in cap with a min of 5 players to sign still. Also, a 5 year offersheet for Petterson would mean hes a UFA at 27/28 I think he would do that over being a UFA at 30
    Jul 21 at 5:19
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    Quoting: Clement
    Matt dumba isn't getting traded
    Mats Zuccarello isn't waiving

    It's bizarre how some want wild to get rid of Dumba


    Zucc NMC goes to a 10 team NTC next year, Dumba would need to be moved assuming Addision or Menell are able to give 85% of his production, just not enough money in the flat cap world to keep him. If it takes us moving Dumba after this year to sign Petterson I do it 10/10
    Jul 21 at 5:20
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    Quoting: Clement
    Matt dumba isn't getting traded
    Mats Zuccarello isn't waiving

    It's bizarre how some want wild to get rid of Dumba


    This is next year. Dumba would be a pending UFA and the cap tightens, so he may be a necessary casualty depending on other moves made.
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    Jul 21 at 5:20
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    Quoting: drmantalban
    This is next year. Dumba would be a pending UFA and the cap tightens, so he may be a necessary casualty depending on other moves made.


    Okay thank you
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    Jul 21 at 5:21
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    Quoting: mnwild17
    If Van matches they would be in Cap Hell. They would be left with 5 million in cap space this year with only 16 players signed. They also have 6.5M on LTIR not counting against their cap at the moment so they would be essentially over the cap, unless those are injuries that will keep those guys out next year as well. Either way they would either have negative cap space, or 5m in cap with a min of 5 players to sign still. Also, a 5 year offersheet for Petterson would mean hes a UFA at 27/28 I think he would do that over being a UFA at 30


    uh huh.
    They match
    Jul 21 at 5:22
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    Quoting: pharrow
    uh huh.
    They match


    If they Match than GMBG should turn right around and ask for their first round pick next year for us to take Eriksson.
    Jul 21 at 5:26
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    Quoting: mnwild17
    If they Match than GMBG should turn right around and ask for their first round pick next year for us to take Eriksson.


    VAN will deal with that. It's only 1 year. It's not worth a high pick.
    Jul 21 at 5:34
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    lol imagine having the audacity to offer sheet Pettersson for not even the max amount of compensation range. You know how easily Canuck can shed millions of dollars? Virtanen and Holtby buyout saves 6.5 million dollars. Burying Roussel and Eriksson saves 3 million dollars. You’re right Beagle will be off of LTIR but Ferland will probably never play a game again. If we decide to dump Eriksson and Roussel, the cost would probably be a few draft picks. That is the last resort but the canucks can easily move money in other ways.
    Jul 21 at 5:35
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    Quoting: mnwild17
    If they Match than GMBG should turn right around and ask for their first round pick next year for us to take Eriksson.


    We ain’t giving you our 9OA to dump Eriksson. I’ve heard that Detroit would be willing to take him on and send back their 22OA so they can move up 13 spots for one year of a cap dump. Try again bud
    Jul 21 at 5:39
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    Quoting: pharrow
    VAN will deal with that. It's only 1 year. It's not worth a high pick.


    If their roster stays as is once FA opens, I don't know how VAN would "Deal with it" since they will have 5m in cap space for 5 spots. They would have to unload either Schmidt or Eriksson contract, and if they were to match before doing that the entire league would see that they couldn't field a cap compliant team outside of signing 5 guys to 1M deals/need ELC guys to fill those spots. At that point they are cornered cap wise, and would need to give up significant assets to offload either of those deals.
    Jul 21 at 5:54
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    We ain’t giving you our 9OA to dump Eriksson. I’ve heard that Detroit would be willing to take him on and send back their 22OA so they can move up 13 spots for one year of a cap dump. Try again bud


    Quoting: Juiceman
    lol imagine having the audacity to offer sheet Pettersson for not even the max amount of compensation range. You know how easily Canuck can shed millions of dollars? Virtanen and Holtby buyout saves 6.5 million dollars. Burying Roussel and Eriksson saves 3 million dollars. You’re right Beagle will be off of LTIR but Ferland will probably never play a game again. If we decide to dump Eriksson and Roussel, the cost would probably be a few draft picks. That is the last resort but the canucks can easily move money in other ways.


    2 things:
    1.They would need to Buy out Virtanen and Holtby before FA opens on July 28th
    2. Im talking next years first round pick in order to get rid of Eriksson/Rousell/Schmidt if they were to match the Petterson offer sheet because it would happen after the draft.

    The Canucks matching the offer sheet would leave them in a bad spot, unless they were to make these moves before FA.
    Jul 21 at 6:13
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    Quoting: mnwild17
    2 things:
    1.They would need to Buy out Virtanen and Holtby before FA opens on July 28th
    2. Im talking next years first round pick in order to get rid of Eriksson/Rousell/Schmidt if they were to match the Petterson offer sheet because it would happen after the draft.

    The Canucks matching the offer sheet would leave them in a bad spot, unless they were to make these moves before FA.


    Canucks have 1 week to match the offer which is plenty of time to get business done. Virtanen is pretty much guaranteed not gonna be playing for Vancouver next year and Holtby is most likely gone as well. Schmidt isn’t even a complete cap dump and he would actually give us a return like a third round pick. Eriksson and Roussel don’t have to be moved but they can or they can just be buried in the minors. They are only in a bad spot this year, after next year when all of the bad contracts expire, we will have a lot of cap space.
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    Jul 21 at 6:27
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    Quoting: mnwild17
    If their roster stays as is once FA opens, I don't know how VAN would "Deal with it" since they will have 5m in cap space for 5 spots. They would have to unload either Schmidt or Eriksson contract, and if they were to match before doing that the entire league would see that they couldn't field a cap compliant team outside of signing 5 guys to 1M deals/need ELC guys to fill those spots. At that point they are cornered cap wise, and would need to give up significant assets to offload either of those deals.


    5 million for 5 spots.....
    it's a broken record.
    Jul 22 at 12:31
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Canucks have 1 week to match the offer which is plenty of time to get business done. Virtanen is pretty much guaranteed not gonna be playing for Vancouver next year and Holtby is most likely gone as well. Schmidt isn’t even a complete cap dump and he would actually give us a return like a third round pick. Eriksson and Roussel don’t have to be moved but they can or they can just be buried in the minors. They are only in a bad spot this year, after next year when all of the bad contracts expire, we will have a lot of cap space.


    1 week to match the offer, but you can’t buy anybody out after the 27th, so buy outs need to have happened before the offer sheet was accepted, or even offered. Van traded a 3rd for Schmidt last year, he put up half the points this year and was worse on D, I doubt they get a 3rd back this year. Maybe a 5th, and in the flat cap summer that’s pushing it. Burying Erickson and Rousell would save about 4 million max? I’m just saying any offer sheet like this would put the Canucks behind the 8 ball.
     
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