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Hyman for Klefbom

Created by: bald_and_bankrupt
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2021
Published: Jul. 21, 2021
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Edmonton gets the player they want, and Leafs get LTIR space
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8$6,000,000
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  1. Klefbom, Oscar
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  1. Hyman, Zach
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2021
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2022
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2023
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19$81,500,000$73,691,450$0$0$7,808,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Waivers ExemptRobertson, Nicholas
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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Anderson, Joey
$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 2
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Brooks, Adam
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000$5,000,000
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000$1,500,000
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Klefbom, Oscar
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:00 a.m.
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What do the Leafs get out of this trade
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.
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Why wouldn't Edmonton just wait until the 28th and sign Hyman for free and use Klefbom's LTIR to add another player?
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.
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Leafs will be lucky to get a 5th/6th...
Otherwise, teams will wait and give them nothing,
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.
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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc
What do the Leafs get out of this trade


LTIR

Quoting: McGruff
Leafs will be lucky to get a 5th/6th...
Otherwise, teams will wait and give them nothing,


You sure? We're talking about Ken Holland. Dubas knows how to fleece GMs. There was also prior interest in Klefbom and his LTIR space. Holland is desperate. Leafs have all the cards
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Why wouldn't Edmonton just wait until the 28th and sign Hyman for free and use Klefbom's LTIR to add another player?


There are other teams knocking on the doors. They aren't as desperate as the Oilers though and can wait
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Please go read the Ltir faq. L-t-I-r is - not- free- cap- space!!!

Which is plainly obvious by your agm. revert the signing and trade and wow, cap space stays the same.
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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I’m not sure you understand what LTIR does.
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Please go read the Ltir faq. L-t-I-r is - not- free- cap- space!!!

Which is plainly obvious by your agm. revert the trade and wow, cap space stays the same.


Buddy, I know how LTIR works. You are not accumulating any cap, but more of a replacement of what should be a players cap hit
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
LTIR



You sure? We're talking about Ken Holland. Dubas knows how to fleece GMs. There was also prior interest in Klefbom and his LTIR space. Holland is desperate. Leafs have all the cards


Holland can be dumb but not that...
Besides - TML have right now, tonight, post expansion - 17 NHLers signed and ONLY US$9.355M in Cap Space...

HYMAN - he gone....
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:10 a.m.
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Quoting: brady_t12
I’m not sure you understand what LTIR does.


You should learn it if you think the cap grows with LTIR. You are using the space that should be accumulated to the player. Your cap doesn't grow
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Buddy, I know how LTIR works. You are not accumulating any cap, but more of a replacement of what should be a players cap hit


Yes… you get relief for klefboms cap hit. 4.167m in and 4.167m relief. Leafs are right back where they started. A bag of pucks would be more valuable to the leafs.
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:17 a.m.
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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc
What do the Leafs get out of this trade


LTIR space
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Yes… you get relief for klefboms cap hit. 4.167m in and 4.167m relief. Leafs are right back where they started. A bag of pucks would be more valuable to the leafs.


But they can spend more so theres that. Would prefer maybe Kahuns rights and a pick but meh if we do this there is potential

we got one of the best medical and rehab centers in the NHL could make him healthy enough to come back in 6months or a year

then flip Rielly for assets and more cap space wink
Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Yes… you get relief for klefboms cap hit. 4.167m in and 4.167m relief. Leafs are right back where they started. A bag of pucks would be more valuable to the leafs.


You are not growing your cap, but you can use the cap that is placed on LTIR when it should have been originally used. It's more of a replacement. There is value to LTIR
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
LTIR space


**** me… this guy’s going to try to teach me about ltir.

The only reason leafs wouldn’t take on klefbom is if there is a chance he will ever return to firm. I have heard that is unlikely.
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
You should learn it if you think the cap grows with LTIR. You are using the space that should be accumulated to the player. Your cap doesn't grow


LMAO I love how you think you’re educating me. Buddy, the leafs get NOTHING out of this deal except they have to pay a guy to sit on LTIR. You made a terrible trade. The cap space doesn’t grow. Leafs get nothing out of this. Get a grip.
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:37 a.m.
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
You are not growing your cap, but you can use the cap that is placed on LTIR when it should have been originally used. It's more of a replacement. There is value to LTIR


It’s already being used on klefboms cap hit. Again there is a perfectly fine faq here that breaks its down into terms. If you would like I can give you the link to the cba.

I will try to explain it to but it gets tiresome that no one takes the time to learn about it.

Let’s say leafs are at 77.5m ( I will explain why I used that later) so they have 4m in cap space. (Remember that) they acquire klefbom at 4m they are now at 81.5m. They put him on ltir and can now spend 85.5m. Since they are at 81.5m that leaves them… tada!!! 4m. Exactly where they were before getting klefbom but worse. They can not accrue cap space while they are above 81.5m meaning that they will not be able to use accrued cap space at TDL even if they are no longer using ltir. Even worse is if they are still using relief TDL acquisitions are not pro rated meaning every dollar on their aav counts against the cap.

Now the reason I used 77.5m and rounded klefbom to 4m. The ACSL accruable cap space limit is set by your total teams full cap hit the day you put the player on ltir. You only receive relief on top of this limit. So if you are at 79.5m you would only be able to spend to 83.5m rather than 85.5m.

I hope that makes it clear.
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:38 a.m.
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Quoting: brady_t12
LMAO I love how you think you’re educating me. Buddy, the leafs get NOTHING out of this deal except they have to pay a guy to sit on LTIR. You made a terrible trade. The cap space doesn’t grow. Leafs get nothing out of this. Get a grip.


I’m glad not everyone is a dunning Kruger champion on this site.

On a positive note I’m sure his contract is insured…
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:50 a.m.
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But they can spend more so theres that. Would prefer maybe Kahuns rights and a pick but meh if we do this there is potential

we got one of the best medical and rehab centers in the NHL could make him healthy enough to come back in 6months or a year

then flip Rielly for assets and more cap space wink


Potential for nothing. Klefbom is done this season and possibly his career. I’m sure the leafs would love to screw over their trade deadline for absolutely no reason.
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 12:55 a.m.
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Potential for nothing. Klefbom is done this season and possibly his career. I’m sure the leafs would love to screw over their trade deadline for absolutely no reason.


We dont got any picks to make deadline moves. Just spend in the offseason and be done with it. If a deadline move is needed work it out when needed
Jul. 22, 2021 at 1:05 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
We dont got any picks to make deadline moves. Just spend in the offseason and be done with it. If a deadline move is needed work it out when needed

We still have a 1st and 2nd… what are you talking about? Just don’t spend them on trash players like Foligno.
Jul. 22, 2021 at 4:04 a.m.
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The armchair GM tool on this site has people all sorts of confused about how LTIR works lol
Jul. 22, 2021 at 8:42 a.m.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
It’s already being used on klefboms cap hit. Again there is a perfectly fine faq here that breaks its down into terms. If you would like I can give you the link to the cba.

I will try to explain it to but it gets tiresome that no one takes the time to learn about it.

Let’s say leafs are at 77.5m ( I will explain why I used that later) so they have 4m in cap space. (Remember that) they acquire klefbom at 4m they are now at 81.5m. They put him on ltir and can now spend 85.5m. Since they are at 81.5m that leaves them… tada!!! 4m. Exactly where they were before getting klefbom but worse. They can not accrue cap space while they are above 81.5m meaning that they will not be able to use accrued cap space at TDL even if they are no longer using ltir. Even worse is if they are still using relief TDL acquisitions are not pro rated meaning every dollar on their aav counts against the cap.

Now the reason I used 77.5m and rounded klefbom to 4m. The ACSL accruable cap space limit is set by your total teams full cap hit the day you put the player on ltir. You only receive relief on top of this limit. So if you are at 79.5m you would only be able to spend to 83.5m rather than 85.5m.

I hope that makes it clear.


Thanks Sherlock
 
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