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Poverty team cause Dubas protected Holl

Created by: omo3
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2021
Published: Jul. 22, 2021
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2$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
7$7,000,000
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$78,399,783$0$600,000$3,100,217

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
UFA - 1
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LD/RD
NTC
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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Landy turned that down in Col
Jul. 22, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffW
Landy turned that down in Col


There's still like 3M in cap space with that **** roster, was just doing it to see what is even possible after countless Dubas blunders.
Jul. 22, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.
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There's still like 3M in cap space with that **** roster, was just doing it to see what is even possible after countless Dubas blunders.


Then you better turn that 7mill to 11.7mill all in signing bonuses
Jul. 22, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
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This team has desperately searched for a competent Rd to play 20 minutes per night. We have one for 2 million for two years in his prime and people want us to give him away... Logical
Jul. 22, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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Easy no from Vancouver
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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This team has desperately searched for a competent Rd to play 20 minutes per night. We have one for 2 million for two years in his prime and people want us to give him away... Logical


Holl gets carried by Muzzin. He's an AHL player. His numbers are complete garbage away from Muzzin.
Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:10 a.m.
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Holl gets carried by Muzzin. He's an AHL player. His numbers are complete garbage away from Muzzin.


I see that claimed a lot but have never seen an ounce of evidence. Looked fine with Rielly.
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
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Holl gets carried by Muzzin. He's an AHL player. His numbers are complete garbage away from Muzzin.


Who exactly would you replace him with? Keefe won't play Dermott more than 16 minutes even with muzzin injured. Liljegren hasn't played in the NHL essentially.

Savard is the only guy in Ufa and I can assure you he'll cost more than 2 mil if he'd even sign here...
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffW
Landy turned that down in Col


on a 7 year deal? i think he only turned down a 7 x 5
Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: omo3
Holl gets carried by Muzzin. He's an AHL player. His numbers are complete garbage away from Muzzin.


more 5v5 points than josi, ellis, pulock, graves, krug, hedman, werenski, heiskanen, and pelech but yes he's an AHL defenseman

he also played more minutes than any other player on the league's 8th best penalty kill (in terms of xGA). Career AHLer

sure he gets better playing with muzzin, that's why we signed Muzzin to a 4 year deal lol. Chemistry is no guarantee, Holl and Muzzin have it, they weren't the problem last year. that pairing is greater than the sum of its parts, it's a luxury that works and the leafs are smart to preserve it

Quoting: BCAPP
Who exactly would you replace him with? Keefe won't play Dermott more than 16 minutes even with muzzin injured. Liljegren hasn't played in the NHL essentially.

Savard is the only guy in Ufa and I can assure you he'll cost more than 2 mil if he'd even sign here...


leafs struggled to find a competant RD for a decade, they finally get one and they think it'll be easy to lose him for nothing and upgrade lol
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Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:26 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
on a 7 year deal? i think he only turned down a 7 x 5


Word is they got to 7x7 and he said no.. he wants 9-10
Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: JeffW
Word is they got to 7x7 and he said no.. he wants 9-10


what was the source?
Jul. 22, 2021 at 10:36 a.m.
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what was the source?


Strickland, confirmed by aj haefele
Jul. 22, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Easy no from Vancouver


Interesting as I wouldnt do it either as the leafs. Guess it's a lose/lose
Jul. 22, 2021 at 1:47 p.m.
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Interesting as I wouldnt do it either as the leafs. Guess it's a lose/lose


Reilly is a pending ufa next offseason and Höglander was a real contender for the Calder
Jul. 22, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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Reilly is a pending ufa next offseason and Höglander was a real contender for the Calder


Rielly is a legit first pairing defenseman. He has flaws, but is year in and year out a top minute eater, can play tough competition (though not top end defensively hence flaws) and top of the league in offense.

You trade a guy like that on a good contract as a rental for a first and a good prospect.

Hoglander is a solid enough player but he doesn't move the needle all that much. I would expect him plus. But frankly Vancouver would only make sense acquiring him if a resigning deal was in place as he's a pending Ufa and Vancouver is not a contender.
Jul. 22, 2021 at 2:42 p.m.
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Reilly is a pending ufa next offseason and Höglander was a real contender for the Calder


Also hoglander was apparently 8th in consideration for the Calder. That is pretty deep to call a real contender.
 
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