How do you afford this next year?

I say van pass miller can bring more to the team then fiala

I like Schmidt. Like I really like Schmidt and his goofy ass smile. But look at the term on his deal, not to mention he’s gonna be over 30 soon.

Miller>Fiala
Schmidt>Rask
Canuck say no thank you

you'd have to move both dumba/schmidt and greenway. Replace with Boldy and Addison.

Fiala=Miller for what they each bring.
Schmidt has 24M on his contract, Rask 4M. Massive difference.

72>54 Points in a career year, Miller is also a grity winger that can score and play center, Fiala is a soft skilled winger who can put up average top 6 Numbers, I don't know what i am missing here

It’s true. Miller is so much more versatile and brings leadership and energy to the group. Fiala puts up solid middle six numbers. Rask is also not very good whereas schmidt has a down year but is a solid player
Benning has said many teams are interested in Schmjdt which means we can get a much better offer than this

Yeah i dont see a way how this trade benefits Van in anyway Miller is way more valuable to the team then Fiala ever would be you win cups with guys like miller

This is a prime example of why stat watching doesn't tell you the entire story. I can understand not wanting to trade Miller for Fiala. Miller IS more versatile, and probably brings more leadership qualities to the locker room. But when I see the term middle six used to describe Fiala, your credibility really starts to take a hit. That would be like me saying Boeser puts up middle six numbers, he's an average top 6 player, etc.

Unfortunately your point also loses Credibility. Brock Boesers has beaten Fialas best point total twice. He also has beaten us goal total twice and tied it this year in a shortened year. He has also suffered several injuries but still put up better numbers. Boeser is also a lot younger with a much higher ceiling so comparing Fiala to Boeser is just straight up nonsense.

Boeser is one single year younger, and in the last two seasons, their points per game rates have been 0.83 vs. 0.82. Their P/60 rates have been 2.17 vs. 2.29. Their linemates have been predominantly JT Miller, Elias Pettersson and Bo Horvat vs. Ryan Hartman, Marcus Johansson, Mikko Koivu and Zach Parise.

Pettersson was injured most of last year and Miller moved around a lot. Boeser didn’t really have a consistent line because of that. He was also injured a lot in the 19-20 season which affected his play. I’m their careers, Fiala has an underwhelming 0.58 points per game where as Boeser has a solid 0.83 points per game….

Here is the issue with that Boeser has yet to play over 70 Games in the nhl while still having Better numbers every year besides the last then Fiala, Boeser has had a lot to deal with in his short nhl career from Back injuries, to family issue to the whole team getting Covid Remember Boeser is also a lot younger then Fiala and this was the first season he was fully healthy since his rookie year, two different players here with two different stories

Are you really going to try a "he didn't have good or consistent linemates" argument for Boeser after I just got done telling you Fiala's linemates have been a revolving door of fourth liners and washed up old guys?

None of that has anything to do with the fact that Fiala and Boeser have produced similarly, so calling Fiala a middle six winger, or an average top six winger, it's the same for Boeser. For whichever way you're going to bend over backwards giving Boeser the benefit of the doubt, Fiala has produced at the same RATE, which accounts for missed time or minutes played, as Boeser. Fiala has produced as much as Boeser with less to work with.

You’re right Boeser had better line mates in general but it was very inconsistent. We also had fourth liners playing in the top six like Mathew Highmore and Jimmy Vesey in some games Boeser was kinda thrown on any line

Yeah, now imagine if Boeser was playing every single night, full time, with players like Highmore and Vesey. THAT is what Fiala had to work with when he produced at almost the exact same rate as Boeser for the last two years.

Did you read the last part? 0.58p/g Is a lot less than 0.83p/g…

I said in the last two years. Which is an accurate depiction of what the players are now. I don't care that Fiala was a worse player when he was 20 than he is now. I care about what they are now.

You’re right but they both have been in the league for not very long and 2 years is not a huge sample size. Boeser overall is a lot better than Fiala. I didn’t say Fiala was a middle 6 forward, I said his point totals would be solid if he was a middle six forward. He just doesn’t produce like a first liner

He isn't overall a lot better than Fiala. He used to be overall a lot better than Fiala. Two completely separate ideas, and what Boeser used to be doesn't matter.

He produces the same as Boeser, so if that's like a middle six forward, then Boeser produces like a middle six forward.

You clearly haven’t read any of my comments. How much more evidence do you need? Boeser is younger and has put up more points than Fiala. They both haven’t even been around for a long time so how can you say “used to be better”. Used to be better? Boeser has been in the league for 4 years….

I can promise you, the issue here isn't that I haven't read your comments, it's that a lot of what you're saying is bending over backwards to find reasons that Boeser is better, that simply aren't relevant.

I've shown you how over the past two seasons, Fiala has produced just as much as Boeser with much worse linemates. The fact that you keep trying to bring up four years ago as proof that Boeser is better now only shows me that you don't have any arguments pertaining to current day.

4 years ago isn’t a long time. I’m also not talking about his rookie season either. I’m talking about his overall production in the 4 years he has been in the league. 4 years is really not a lot of time. I agree he has a lot worse line mates but but other than that, your arguments are rather bleak.