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Every other year

Created by: Biglou94
Initial Creation Date: Jul 22, 2021
Published: Jul 22 at 3:49
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hart, Carter2$3,000,000
Sanheim, Travis5$3,750,000
Reinhart, Sam8$6,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Halák, Jaroslav1$2,000,000
Bogosian, Zach1$1,500,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
BUF
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Watson, Austin
  3. 2022 4th round pick (OTT)
  4. 2022 7th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. MacDermid, Kurtis
  2. 2023 5th round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Hägg, Robert
  2. Watson, Austin
PHI
  1. Strålman, Anton ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. 2021 5th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. 2022 7th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Deslauriers, Nicolas
ANA
  1. Strome, Matthew
  2. 2021 5th round pick (FLA)
Buyouts
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PHI
PHI
VGK
PHI
PHI
2022
PHI
PHI
PHI
OTT
PHI
PHI
OTT
2023
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
SEA
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,532,023$0$2,950,000$1,967,977

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 1
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Reinhart, Sam
$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
PHI
Farabee, Joel
$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$3,000,000
LW
RFA - 2
PHI
Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PHI
Allison, Wade
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
ANA
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
PHI
Laughton, Scott
$3,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 5
PHI
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,075,000
RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Laczynski, Tanner
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$6,750,000
LD
UFA - 4
PHI
Ellis, Ryan
$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 6
PHI
Hart, Carter
$3,000,000
G
RFA - 3
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
FLA
Strålman, Anton
$3,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Halák, Jaroslav
$2,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
PHI
York, Cam
$880,833
LD
RFA - 2
PHI
Braun, Justin
$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Bogosian, Zach
$1,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Giroux, C.
Couturier, S.
van Riemsdyk, J.
Ellis, R.
Provorov, I.
Power Play 2
Farabee, J.
Hayes, K.
Reinhart, S.
York, C.
Sanheim, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Laughton, S.
Aubé-Kubel, N.
Provorov, I.
Braun, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Couturier, S.
Lindblom, O.
Sanheim, T.
Strålman, A.

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Jul 22 at 3:50
#1
In Zito We Trust
Joined: Oct 2020
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Bad for florida
We will just dump stralman for a 2nd or 3rd and trade for garland or something
Jul 22 at 4:05
#2
Shibbal18
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Sabres want a prospect and 1st for Reinhart, Frost is also not that desirable
Jul 22 at 5:21
#3
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres want a prospect and 1st for Reinhart, Frost is also not that desirable


Is Brink more desirable? I can't see Farabee or York being in play and with it looking like Eichel is going to be moved I figure that a center would be of interest
Jul 22 at 5:55
#4
Shibbal18
Joined: Jan 2016
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
Is Brink more desirable? I can't see Farabee or York being in play and with it looking like Eichel is going to be moved I figure that a center would be of interest


Wisdom or Brink and a 1st would have them in the convo
Jul 22 at 7:00
#5
Joined: Oct 2019
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Man, retaining 1.25 on Dadonov basically means that trading for a 9.5MM Voracek :S

Watson is value positive (in his production v his cap hit, not to mention the PK role and his grit™), and a 4th and a 7th would buy a 3rd...

OTT doesn't accept this.
Jul 22 at 7:43
#6
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,225
Likes: 443
Quoting: Shibbal18
Wisdom or Brink and a 1st would have them in the convo


I could see that happening and to a degree I understand why Frost isn't insanely desirable cause of him being 22 and not having NHL experience but to a degree its through no fault of his own and I still seem him being a more valuable/"better" player than both of the players you mentioned
Jul 22 at 7:44
#7
Joined: Apr 2018
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
Is Brink more desirable? I can't see Farabee or York being in play and with it looking like Eichel is going to be moved I figure that a center would be of interest
IDK how to evaluate prospects.
Frost was a late first round pick who played really well in Juniors, OK in the AHL but not much to show in the NHL.
IMO this is really close to a fair offer.
Maybe make the 2nd and 3rd a first and Buffalo adds FLA and MTL 3rd round picks.
So essentially a second and 3 thirds for a first.
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Jul 22 at 7:50
#8
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
IDK how to evaluate prospects.
Frost was a late first round pick who played really well in Juniors, OK in the AHL but not much to show in the NHL.
IMO this is really close to a fair offer.
Maybe make the 2nd and 3rd a first and Buffalo adds FLA and MTL 3rd round picks.
So essentially a second and 3 thirds for a first.


I personally think Frost and 13th overall is a fair offer but wouldn't work cause of the cap situation Philly is currently in
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Jul 22 at 7:53
#9
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
I personally think Frost and 13th overall is a fair offer but wouldn't work cause of the cap situation Philly is currently in
Thanks for the feedback.
I was not considering the cap only the value of the trade.
This was proposed by a different ACGM: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/489716?post_id=2553022
Let's consider JVR going to Buffalo, what do you think would be changed to make that happen?
Jul 22 at 7:54
#10
Shibbal18
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 18,219
Likes: 5,382
Quoting: flyersarephilly
I could see that happening and to a degree I understand why Frost isn't insanely desirable cause of him being 22 and not having NHL experience but to a degree its through no fault of his own and I still seem him being a more valuable/"better" player than both of the players you mentioned


The other 2 are safer and Buffalo cant afford a gamble
Jul 22 at 8:03
#11
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Quoting: Shibbal18
The other 2 are safer and Buffalo cant afford a gamble


That's funny cause I feel like Frost is the safer bet even though he's a bit older. Sure he hasn't put up the numbers that he did in juniors in the AHL but the skill is there and in his nhl games he's shown he can hold his own at the top of the line up. I see him panning out to be a top 6 forward more like a 2C than anything else with the other two I see brink as a second line wing at most most liekly a middle six guy and Wisdom is harder to read but probably a 3rd liner maybe a flexible top 9 guy
Jul 22 at 8:07
#12
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Thanks for the feedback.
I was not considering the cap only the value of the trade.
This was proposed by a different ACGM: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/489716?post_id=2553022
Let's consider JVR going to Buffalo, what do you think would be changed to make that happen?


Seeing that it looks like Buffalo's ask is a top prospect and a first for Reinhart I'd say Philly would need to add a pick to get buffalo to eat JVR's cap even though I think JVR has value with how valuable cap space is in the flat cap era I could see a 2nd or 3rd needing to go to buffalo but if Buffalo see is as a replacement of production maybe just adding JVR could get the deal done not really sure
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Jul 22 at 8:14
#13
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
Seeing that it looks like Buffalo's ask is a top prospect and a first for Reinhart I'd say Philly would need to add a pick to get buffalo to eat JVR's cap even though I think JVR has value with how valuable cap space is in the flat cap era I could see a 2nd or 3rd needing to go to buffalo but if Buffalo see is as a replacement of production maybe just adding JVR could get the deal done not really sure
I had the same opinion.
JVR knows how to score goals.
Taking his salary obviously would help the flyers but as you say, it may be a wash.
Let's agree that a 3rd is about the right amount.
Buffalo could retain 50% and IMO a team could be very interested.
I was actually shocked that the Islanders did not consider him when Lee was lost for the season as they play pretty much the same game.
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Jul 22 at 8:18
#14
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
I had the same opinion.
JVR knows how to score goals.
Taking his salary obviously would help the flyers but as you say, it may be a wash.
Let's agree that a 3rd is about the right amount.
Buffalo could retain 50% and IMO a team could be very interested.
I was actually shocked that the Islanders did not consider him when Lee was lost for the season as they play pretty much the same game.


I think 3 years at $7M feels like a lot more than 2 years which is probably why it wasn't considered also having that contract on while trying to sign Pelech and Beauviller would make it much harder to fit everything under the cap
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Jul 22 at 8:20
#15
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Wisdom or Brink and a 1st would have them in the convo


You’d want to have Frost over Wisdom or Brink if those are your three options. Brink had a terrible year at Denver and Wisdom might be able to crack the bottom-six. Frost has the most upside and is the safest of the three.
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