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Weber is never playing again plus 3 top 6 forwards

Created by: knuxles
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2021
Published: Jul. 22, 2021
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-Weber is never playing again, gonna miss him, such a warrior.
On the bright side, this means we can get another 1st round pick. Nashville has no choice other than to give us their 1st because of the $24mil dollar cap penalty that they will receive when he retires. This will force Nashville to get rid of at least 3 or 4 of their top players. Nashville essentially has no choice, either they bite the bullet or accept the trade and keep their top 4 players.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,450,000
3$1,000,000
3$5,500,000
3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
3$5,500,000
3$1,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2021 1st round pick (NSH)
2.
MTL
    Cap relief
    OTT
    1. Byron, Paul
    2. 2021 4th round pick (VGK)
    3. 2021 5th round pick (PHI)
    3.
    STL
    1. Dobes, Jakub [Reserve List]
    2. Drouin, Jonathan
    3. Harris, Jordan [Reserve List]
    4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
    4.
    MTL
    1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [RFA Rights]
    DET
    1. Hillis, Cameron
    2. Kulak, Brett
    3. Lehkonen, Artturi [RFA Rights]
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
    5. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
    5.
    MTL
    NYI
    1. Belzile, Alex
    2. Chiarot, Ben
    3. Fairbrother, Gianni
    4. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
    5. 2021 4th round pick (STL)
    6.
    BUF
    1. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
    2. 2021 4th round pick (MTL)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$66,162,977$597,561$1,475,000$15,337,023

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,450,000$3,450,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,125,000$2,125,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $900,000$900,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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    A bunch of pennies/dimes for a dollar.

    That’s a no from Detroit & NYI.

    Nor is Nashville paying for Weber, he’ll go LTIRetire.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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    Weber is NOT retiring... he's LTIRetiring... insurance is paying 80% of his actual salary
    So NO NAS won't give you a first for him

    but I'll let you with your dreams...
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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    What in God's name could impel the Islanders to trade Anthony Beauvillier? Never mind the garbage return.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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    Trading Bertuzzi for a bag of pucks isn’t part of the YZERPLAN.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: alpine4life
    Weber is NOT retiring... he's LTIRetiring... insurance is paying 80% of his actual salary
    So NO NAS won't give you a first for him

    but I'll let you with your dreams...


    Read the newest reports on his injury. He has an injured ankle, knee, foot, and thumb and will "likely never play again"... usually this means he will retire lmao
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.
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    There are a lot of trash for treasure concepts here
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    Read the newest reports on his injury. He has an injured ankle, knee, foot, and thumb and will "likely never play again"... usually this means he will retire lmao


    yes, I know but he'll do like every other players did with excessive terms on their contract (thx to the 2005 CBA) and LTIRe (except Luongo)... there's even one in there that got allergic to his equipment

    you can keep crying but that's a reality cry
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.
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    Hirose’s rights for Suzuki and a 1st 😂
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.
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    Cheaper to buyout Byron

    And Drouin will be in training camp, hes staying.

    And for Weber, you put him on LTIR for 2 seasons then pressure retirement as hes only owed 3m in the last 3 years. The recapture penalty would be crazy, thats when you can get stuff from the Preds
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.
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    Two Hot ‘N Readys for Jake Allen and a 3rd.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    Read the newest reports on his injury. He has an injured ankle, knee, foot, and thumb and will "likely never play again"... usually this means he will retire lmao

    Just like Boychuk huh?
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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    What in God's name could impel the Islanders to trade Anthony Beauvillier? Never mind the garbage return.


    idk prob all the rumors surrounding the upcoming trade between the Habs and Islanders that involves Beauvillier going to the Habs...
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: Marc_Bergevin
    Cheaper to buyout Byron

    And Drouin will be in training camp, hes staying.

    And for Weber, you put him on LTIR for 2 seasons then pressure retirement as hes only owed 3m in the last 3 years. The recapture penalty would be crazy, thats when you can get stuff from the Preds

    How do you pressure Weber into retiring? Hey Shane, do you mind retiring and forfeiting some money so we can pressure this other team into giving us stuff? O PS, we can’t pay you for this and no one can know about this conversation but you’d be doing us a solid.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: will9739
    Trading Bertuzzi for a bag of pucks isn’t part of the YZERPLAN.


    You get a 30 point forward, an underpaid physical defenseman, a 21-year-old 83-point OHL center, and two 2nd round picks
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: BStinson
    How do you pressure Weber into retiring? Hey Shane, do you mind retiring and forfeiting some money so we can pressure this other team into giving us stuff? O PS, we can’t pay you for this and no one can know about this conversation but you’d be doing us a solid.


    Habs lose 7.8 million in the offseason because of his cap hit. Hed only make 3m total in the last 3 years, thats a very easy conversation to have.
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Marc_Bergevin
    Habs lose 7.8 million in the offseason because of his cap hit. Hed only make 3m total in the last 3 years, thats a very easy conversation to have.

    So he foregoes 3M in cash because he wants the Habs to have leverage in a trade over Nashville? Whom I’d wager he has relationships with some of their players & FO personnel to this date? There’s no incentive for him so I don’t see how logically you can say it’s an easy conversation.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:27 p.m.
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    Edited Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:33 p.m.
    You have to explain how trading Weber to Nashville helps Nashville's cap. If Weber retires Nashville in on the hook for his "front loaded contract", doesn't really matter if he is a Hab or not.

    There is no such thing a LTIR retired. There's LTIR (for various lengths of time) and retire. But a player can't declare himself LTIR and get paid, and team can't declare a player on LTIR to avoid cap. LTIR mean a player can't be medically fit to play and the league actually decides.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    idk prob all the rumors surrounding the upcoming trade between the Habs and Islanders that involves Beauvillier going to the Habs...


    If Beauvillier gets traded to the Canadiens, it will be for someone drafted in the first round, and I don't think that you're going to like that.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    You get a 30 point forward, an underpaid physical defenseman, a 21-year-old 83-point OHL center, and two 2nd round picks

    Fair enough but it’s still not enough. Bert isn’t for sale. For Yzerman to trade Bert it will require an overpayment. I have a 2006 Tacoma 4x4 with 58K miles. It has a lift and 31 inch tires on it, it is in mint condition. It’s not for sale but if you offered me 2X Kelly Blue Book I would consider selling it.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: will9739
    Fair enough but it’s still not enough. Bert isn’t for sale. For Yzerman to trade Bert it will require an overpayment. I have a 2006 Tacoma 4x4 with 58K miles. It has a lift and 31 inch tires on it, it is in mint condition. It’s not for sale but if you offered me 2X Kelly Blue Book I would consider selling it.


    Bertuzzi has been linked to the Habs and Devils according to multiple sources. It's also rumored that contract negotiations between Bertuzzi and the Red Wings have stopped and it's believed he's played his last game for the Red Wings.
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: will9739
    Fair enough but it’s still not enough. Bert isn’t for sale. For Yzerman to trade Bert it will require an overpayment. I have a 2006 Tacoma 4x4 with 58K miles. It has a lift and 31 inch tires on it, it is in mint condition. It’s not for sale but if you offered me 2X Kelly Blue Book I would consider selling it.


    So basically what I'm saying is that Yzerman wants him back on the Red Wings but Bertuzzi wants out and the Devils and Habs have been linked to him
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    Bertuzzi has been linked to the Habs and Devils according to multiple sources. It's also rumored that contract negotiations between Bertuzzi and the Red Wings have stopped and it's believed he's played his last game for the Red Wings.

    LOL. I heard Yzerman say the words in a press conference. Yzerman stated that Bert isn’t on the block but would entertain trade proposals. Now you’re just pulling stuff out of your dark-side. 😂
    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    You get a 30 point forward, an underpaid physical defenseman, a 21-year-old 83-point OHL center, and two 2nd round picks


    Lehkonen went over 30 points once in the 2018-19 and he has been in just about every Montreal ACGM done by Montreal fans for the last 3 seasons.

    Kulak is a UFA at the end of the season and rebuilding team don't rent players.

    Hills is behind Poehling on the depth chart and Poehling's celling is a #3C.

    I'm sorry but that trade is awful for Detroit.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: knuxles
    Bertuzzi has been linked to the Habs and Devils according to multiple sources. It's also rumored that contract negotiations between Bertuzzi and the Red Wings have stopped and it's believed he's played his last game for the Red Wings.


    Yzerman about two hours ago said Bertuzzi is too valuable and not being shopped. Acknowledged that teams have tried but said it's not happening.
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    Jul. 22, 2021 at 5:45 p.m.
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    Keep dreaming about that supposed leverage you have over Nashville
    1) if Weber is too injured to play and can go onto ltir he will and will collect the money he deserves. Montreal can’t do a dang thing about it. Trying to pressure him to retire would reflect rather poorly on Montreal
    2) if Weber decides he’d rather retire there isn’t a thing Nashville can do about it so why would we trade for him? We have a ton of capspace and are entering a retool/rebuild trading anything of value would be dumb. I’ll give you future considerations at most
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