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Crazy Anti Analytics trade

Created by: Subbanator7667
Initial Creation Date: Jul 23, 2021
Published: Jul 23 at 11:21
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
I think Buffalo would have to add something else to really incentivise MTL to do this but the trade off of Byrons money and hoping that both players succeed in a better enviroment is the hope here
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi3$2,800,000
Lehkonen, Artturi4$3,000,000
Poehling, Ryan2$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Armia, Joel3$3,200,000
Perry, Corey2$900,000
Getzlaf, Ryan2$900,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($2,700,000 retained)
  2. Skinner, Jeff ($4,500,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,712,560$597,561$2,975,000$4,787,440
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$4,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$2,800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$3,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Caufield, Cole
$880,833
RW, C
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$3,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Getzlaf, Ryan
$900,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Perry, Corey
$900,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$6,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Allen, Jake
$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Ouellet, Xavier
$737,500
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Ylönen, Jesse
$880,833
RW
RFA - 2

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Jul 23 at 11:23
#1
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 431
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I will not touch at Skinner, even at 4.5 m
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Jul 23 at 11:23
#2
Joined: Sep 2020
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I doubt Buffalo would ever consider retaining $4.5M for 6 years.
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Jul 23 at 11:24
#3
Joined: Sep 2020
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No one is eating that retention for nothing.
Jul 23 at 11:24
#4
Thread Starter
Subbanator
Joined: Jul 2017
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Quoting: Meeqs
No one is eating that retention for nothing.


Could argue that just clearing the 4.5 million is worth something
Jul 23 at 11:25
#5
Joined: Apr 2020
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i think buffalo accepts that.
Jul 23 at 11:27
#6
Lenny7
Joined: Jan 2017
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Given that he's still owed $52 mil, I just really, really can't see Buffalo paying half of that, and also giving more. Not saying that Skinner is even worth it at $4.5 x 6 years, just that that's an unbelievable cost to get rid of him.
Jul 23 at 11:31
#7
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 2,218
Buffalo adds 4 1sts just for taking Skinner!

Edit** I was being sarcastic but they definitely need to add at least 2
Jul 23 at 11:36
#8
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Subbanator
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Quoting: Campabee
Buffalo adds 4 1sts just for taking Skinner!

Edit** I was being sarcastic but they definitely need to add at least 2


LOL I know but Habs do need a LH shooting forward and Skinner when actually playing up to his ability is one of the best. HUGE RISK with it but if it worked out could be the reason we make the playoffs again
Jul 23 at 11:37
#9
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 986
Likes: 369
Quoting: Subbanator7667
Could argue that just clearing the 4.5 million is worth something


Its not 4.5, its that times the term, and no owner is paying out that cash with nothing to show for it. At that point they will just trade him.

Its why we usually see bad contracts flipped, where one team gets a guy or the other one can be LTIR to save cash.

You need a REALLY strong motivator to tell your owner you are gunna cost him 25m$ for nothing and its not like Buf is going to be any good any time soon or need that cap space
Jul 23 at 11:40
#10
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 356
Buffalo wont pay someone 4.5 for not being on their team 5+ years. would rather keep skinner at 9 mil and see what happens
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Jul 23 at 11:46
#11
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 18,104
Likes: 5,418
Anti analytics? Even the old hockey guys are against this.

Its not anti analytics. Its anti logic.
 
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