Crazy Anti Analytics trade

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Created by: Subbanator7667

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 23, 2021

Published: Jul. 23, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I think Buffalo would have to add something else to really incentivise MTL to do this but the trade off of Byrons money and hoping that both players succeed in a better enviroment is the hope here

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi	3	$2,800,000
Lehkonen, Artturi	4	$3,000,000
Poehling, Ryan	2	$925,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Armia, Joel	3	$3,200,000
Perry, Corey	2	$900,000
Getzlaf, Ryan	2	$900,000

Trades

MTL

Ristolainen, Rasmus ($2,700,000 retained)
Skinner, Jeff ($4,500,000 retained)

BUF

Byron, Paul
2022 3rd round pick (MTL)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$65,381,310	$597,561	$1,475,000	$16,118,690

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Skinner, Jeff $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 6	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $2,800,000$2,800,000 C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Lehkonen, Artturi $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Armia, Joel $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	Getzlaf, Ryan $900,000$900,000 C UFA - 1	Perry, Corey $900,000$900,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
	Ristolainen, Rasmus $2,700,000$2,700,000 RD UFA - 1	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ouellet, Xavier $737,500$737,500 LD/RD UFA - 1	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
Poehling, Ryan $925,000$925,000 C, LW UFA - 2
Ylönen, Jesse $880,833$880,833 RW, LW RFA - 2

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.

nepTrystan

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I will not touch at Skinner, even at 4.5 m

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Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.

Bruins1054_gmb

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I doubt Buffalo would ever consider retaining $4.5M for 6 years.

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Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.

Meeqs

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No one is eating that retention for nothing.

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.

Subbanator7667

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Quoting: Meeqs

No one is eating that retention for nothing.

Could argue that just clearing the 4.5 million is worth something

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:25 a.m.

DirtyDangle

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i think buffalo accepts that.

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.

Lenny7

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Given that he's still owed $52 mil, I just really, really can't see Buffalo paying half of that, and also giving more. Not saying that Skinner is even worth it at $4.5 x 6 years, just that that's an unbelievable cost to get rid of him.

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.

Campabee

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Buffalo adds 4 1sts just for taking Skinner!

Edit** I was being sarcastic but they definitely need to add at least 2

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.

Subbanator7667

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Quoting: Campabee

Buffalo adds 4 1sts just for taking Skinner!

Edit** I was being sarcastic but they definitely need to add at least 2

LOL I know but Habs do need a LH shooting forward and Skinner when actually playing up to his ability is one of the best. HUGE RISK with it but if it worked out could be the reason we make the playoffs again

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.

Meeqs

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Could argue that just clearing the 4.5 million is worth something

Its not 4.5, its that times the term, and no owner is paying out that cash with nothing to show for it. At that point they will just trade him.

Its why we usually see bad contracts flipped, where one team gets a guy or the other one can be LTIR to save cash.

You need a REALLY strong motivator to tell your owner you are gunna cost him 25m$ for nothing and its not like Buf is going to be any good any time soon or need that cap space

Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.

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asauer1122

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Buffalo wont pay someone 4.5 for not being on their team 5+ years. would rather keep skinner at 9 mil and see what happens

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Jul. 23, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.

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F50marco

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Anti analytics? Even the old hockey guys are against this.

Its not anti analytics. Its anti logic.

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