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Trading on the Chuck Fletcher value Chart

Created by: Mintyfresh
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 23, 2021
Published: Jul. 23, 2021
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  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (PHI)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
18$81,500,000$76,811,428$0$1,025,000$4,688,572
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333
C
RFA - 1

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Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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you guys got robbed. no offense.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Risto is underrated, I cant wait till he shows up this year in Philly and proves himself
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockey247
you guys got robbed. no offense.


you didn't need to say no offense. I don't take offense to people point out how dumb our GM just was. I am cool with adding Ristolainen and his physicality, but for that price, I'm expecting a much bigger impact. Buffalo probably got better value for Ristolainen than the Preds got for Ryan Ellis. Unreal.
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Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Mintyfresh
you didn't need to say no offense. I don't take offense to people point out how dumb our GM just was. I am cool with adding Ristolainen and his physicality, but for that price, I'm expecting a much bigger impact. Buffalo probably got better value for Ristolainen than the Preds got for Ryan Ellis. Unreal.


agreed. he's a good add and he'll flourish, but the price was just way to much.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Risto is underrated, I cant wait till he shows up this year in Philly and proves himself


I'm not as critical on him as the anlaytics crowd, but even if he improves and looks better than he did in Buffalo, for the price given he needs to improve a lot, and if he does then we can't afford to keep him at that point so I just don't get the move, he only has 1 year left. Unless they signed him to an extension, that makes it even more egregious.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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Just when you thought things couldn't get worse for Carter Hart....
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Welcome to the hell that Minnesota had from chuck fletcher. Always thinking “this is the missing piece” and mortgaging the future for it. Lead us to lots of mediocrity and bad contracts.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Lightman13
Welcome to the hell that Minnesota had from chuck fletcher. Always thinking “this is the missing piece” and mortgaging the future for it. Lead us to lots of mediocrity and bad contracts.


I was enjoying his patient approach as it led to a good deal in Ellis, but if this is what he's like going all in, then please good riddance.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.
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I was enjoying his patient approach as it led to a good deal in Ellis, but if this is what he's like going all in, then please good riddance.


Treats draft picks like pringles at the deadline. You won’t get to use a 1st rounder for like 5 years or 2nd rounder for that matter.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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Fletcher got fleeced, Flyers are desperate to be in win now mode lol
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Buffalo accepts
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Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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Fletcher got fleeced, Flyers are desperate to be in win now mode lol


The problem with that is, Risto barely moves the needle. Pretty soon we will be in Sharks territory. A ton of useless contracts and no draft picks. Stuck. Is there anyone more arrogant about his mid-round draft success than Chuck Fletcher.
Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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I am absolutely sick to my stomach knowing we made this trade
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Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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It's not that people undervalued Risto but I think people vastly overvalue draft picks and prospects - I mean there are very few sure things in a NHL draft and people call prospects untouchable and I check them out and they haven't even played in the AHL yet - Power is the consensus #1 and I feel he has a 50% chance to be a first pair D-man after 3- years - Beniers is a player I'd like on my team but I doubt he's a first line center more like a good two-way 2nd line center - people don't like a 27 y/o because he might decline in 3-4 years but they love a 19 y/o who might take 3-4 years to set foot in the NHL or might not make it at all.
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Jul. 23, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Risto is underrated, I cant wait till he shows up this year in Philly and proves himself


I agree Risto is underrated. However Philly overpaid significantly in this trade. If you remove the 2nd in 2023 and add 50% retained, the trade is even. But wow.
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Jul. 23, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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It's not that people undervalued Risto but I think people vastly overvalue draft picks and prospects - I mean there are very few sure things in a NHL draft and people call prospects untouchable and I check them out and they haven't even played in the AHL yet - Power is the consensus #1 and I feel he has a 50% chance to be a first pair D-man after 3- years - Beniers is a player I'd like on my team but I doubt he's a first line center more like a good two-way 2nd line center - people don't like a 27 y/o because he might decline in 3-4 years but they love a 19 y/o who might take 3-4 years to set foot in the NHL or might not make it at all.


Quoting: faulkmydzingel
I agree Risto is underrated. However Philly overpaid significantly in this trade. If you remove the 2nd in 2023 and add 50% retained, the trade is even. But wow.


I agree about over-valuing draft prospects, but Rasmus Ristolainen is legit not good, and he is on a 1 year deal. So unless the flyers win the stanley cup this year, this trade is more than likely a failure, because even if Risto outperforms his Buffalo production astronomically. By trading this much for him, you just gave his agent huge bargaining chip when it comes to his next contract. Flyers already have to re-sign Giroux, Coots, and Farabee next year. If he's bad? You don't re-sign and lost a ton of draft compensation. If he's good? You are in a huge cap crunch and probably can't afford to keep him.

*Checks Notes* -- Voracek and JVR still are on the roster with big contracts and we already have significantly less picks to work with because of Ristolainen. Picks we likely needed to trade w/ Voracek/JVR to get rid of them.

And I agree with the guy above. If there was any sort of retention, I'd be a little less outraged, but to get no retention for just this year is freaking nuts. How could you not convince Buffalo to retain on a 1 year deal when they are already fleecing you. Chuck must of had big plans tonight at 8 pm, he was desperate to get out of this 1st round.
 
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