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Landeskog

Created by: Garitjax
Team: 2016-17 Anaheim Ducks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2017
Published: Feb. 16, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I imagine Col would want another piece for Duchene but I am not sure what. I don't see them adding one of Theo, Montour, or Larsson to a trade involving Vats as well. Maybe a Nattinen or Roy. On the NJ side they swap UFA backups to help the Ducks with Cap and get essentially 2 seconds for PAP who they got on waivers.

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Trades
1.
COL
  1. Garbutt, Ryan
  2. Vatanen, Sami
  3. 2017 1st round pick (ANA)
2.
Buyouts
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2017
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2018
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2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$73,000,000$67,081,929$0$850,000$5,918,071

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,504,887$2,504,887
RW, LW
UFA - 6
$8,250,000$8,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
$8,625,000$8,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
$724,500$724,500
C
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
$1,600,000$1,600,000
C
UFA - 1
$660,000$660,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,856,708$2,856,708
LD
UFA - 6
$825,000$825,000
RD
UFA - 2
$2,300,000$2,300,000
G
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$3,700,000$3,700,000
RD
UFA - 5

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Feb. 17, 2017 at 6:11 a.m.
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I like it. I think you're right that COL would probably want more. Replace Garbutt with Theodore and I think you've put together a very strong offer for Duchene and it's one I take. The only question is whether COL would be interested in Vatanen with Barrie in the mix? I'm not sure they would. However, Barrie has been awful this year and Sakic may be keen to dump him for picks and prospects or move him to the 3rd line behind EJ and Vats. If that's the case, then there is a deal to be had. Still, given that there were reports of COL wanting Lindholm in exchange for Landeskog, I suspect they'll be looking for a future #1D for Duchene or a deal akin to Johnson (CLB) for Jones (NSH).
Feb. 17, 2017 at 11:21 a.m.
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No way Ducks would send Theodore with Vatanen for Duchene. That's an excessively bloated trade; top 4 D are valued so high right now I don't think Sakic gets what he wants for Duchene. That's the asking price for a superstar, Duchene is not a superstar.
Feb. 19, 2017 at 10:05 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 19, 2017 at 10:14 p.m.
Quoting: Bricks_n_Sticks
No way Ducks would send Theodore with Vatanen for Duchene. That's an excessively bloated trade; top 4 D are valued so high right now I don't think Sakic gets what he wants for Duchene. That's the asking price for a superstar, Duchene is not a superstar.


Duchene may not be an elite superstar, but he's still at 1st line C. Those guys have more value than top 4 D-men. Vatanen has struggled this year, has a number of weaknesses and is quite clearly a 3-4 D-man rather than a 1-2 guy. Duchene is worth substantially more than Vatanen. Theodore, whilst promising, is just a prospect and he has also struggled this year. I think you're grossly overvaluing top 4 D-men. They're worth a tonne right now, but expecting a Hall-Larsson type return every time is quite ridiculous, especially when Duchene plays a more important position in C (not LW).

Duchene is worth Fowler. They both play important positions, they're both good but not top tier elite players and they're both around the same age. I wouldn't trade Fowler for Vatanen + Garbutt + 1st. I wouldn't trade Fowler for Vatanen + Theodore + 1st. Let's not kid ourselves and say those are untouchable pieces. Vatanen is very movable as is Theodore because we have Larsson.
Feb. 21, 2017 at 12:28 a.m.
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Quoting: mytduxfan
Quoting: Bricks_n_Sticks
No way Ducks would send Theodore with Vatanen for Duchene. That's an excessively bloated trade; top 4 D are valued so high right now I don't think Sakic gets what he wants for Duchene. That's the asking price for a superstar, Duchene is not a superstar.


Duchene may not be an elite superstar, but he's still at 1st line C. Those guys have more value than top 4 D-men. Vatanen has struggled this year, has a number of weaknesses and is quite clearly a 3-4 D-man rather than a 1-2 guy. Duchene is worth substantially more than Vatanen. Theodore, whilst promising, is just a prospect and he has also struggled this year. I think you're grossly overvaluing top 4 D-men. They're worth a tonne right now, but expecting a Hall-Larsson type return every time is quite ridiculous, especially when Duchene plays a more important position in C (not LW).

Duchene is worth Fowler. They both play important positions, they're both good but not top tier elite players and they're both around the same age. I wouldn't trade Fowler for Vatanen + Garbutt + 1st. I wouldn't trade Fowler for Vatanen + Theodore + 1st. Let's not kid ourselves and say those are untouchable pieces. Vatanen is very movable as is Theodore because we have Larsson.


Value wise I don't necessarily think Vatanen and Theo is too much for Duchene but too much from one position. The reason we can move a guy like Vatanen is because we have Theo and Montour and Larsson. In all likelyhood 1 if not both are full time Ducks next year with Larsson being an injury call up. Now depending on what happens with the expansion draft and Bieksa I could see them moving one of the 3 prospect D but ideally I think it would be for forward depth which we just don't have. These are our bet trade chips and I don't think you use 2 on the same trade.
 
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