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Chicago Blackhawks signed Seth Jones (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

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Jul. 24, 2021 at 1:10 a.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
He had one bad year his underline stats are good he has a good two way game but what we offered him is gonna turn into the next Karl Alzner


As a jackets fan I can promise you hes been declining for multiple years and only had 2 really good years to begin with
Jul. 24, 2021 at 1:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Wait 3 years and this will stink a lot. There is really no way to consider this good for the hawks in anyway as it's 8 YEARS (if this was 2-3 years or something I'd say it's somewhat fair)!

So in 3 years a 29 year old Seth Jones isn’t going to be a good hockey player? Bit pessimistic.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:02 a.m.
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I accidently voted yes lol


Damn, there's 6 clueless people out there
Jul. 24, 2021 at 9:11 a.m.
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As a jackets fan I can promise you hes been declining for multiple years and only had 2 really good years to begin with


I still see his defensive game which might let us get SOMETHING out of him
Jul. 24, 2021 at 9:22 a.m.
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This was a rough signing. It's a lot of money. The contract isn't Skinner bad or EK bad or Bob bad. It's a lot of money though. He needs to get some kind of Norris consideration in order to live up to it. He is the best Dman in the Hawks right now...so they are better than last year. I've been on here for years saying the 2-way dmen already harder to find than puck movers...so I'm at least happy we have a true #1 rd.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 9:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
So in 3 years a 29 year old Seth Jones isn’t going to be a good hockey player? Bit pessimistic.


Fair point. My analysis is a little off, but regardless this is horrible.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Fair point. My analysis is a little off, but regardless this is horrible.

I don’t disagree. Look I dislike Boqvist so good riddance but at the same time if we think he has EK65 potential which is his comparable why not let him develop and keep your picks? What if Hawks win the lottery next year and miss out on Shane Wright? Idk… Bowman had a bad day. Dislike the Nolan Allen pick too.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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The fact that makar got less than jones is insane
Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Bowman: how much money do you want?

Jones:

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I have never seen so many likes on a post
Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.
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1) Jones has a reputation for being an elite D-man... He is not.
2) He is overpaid and could be a boat anchor contract in 5-6 years.
3) He is still good and is still a top pairing D. A change of scenery will be huge for him.
4) Giving up Boqvist and all those picks is an astonomical price to pay... Odd that they didn't go all in for Hamilton instead and offer him 10x7
Jul. 24, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
He had one bad year his underline stats are good he has a good two way game but what we offered him is gonna turn into the next Karl Alzner


he most certainly does not have a good two way game. He had one really bad year after several average years. He is atrocious defensively and barely above average offensively.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
I still see his defensive game which might let us get SOMETHING out of him


He has no defensive game. It is horrible. He barely has an offensive game. The only place we might get something out of him is the powerplay.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
On a 8 year deal he's worth about 7.5m$ Massive overpay


Why?

What has he done to warrant 7.5m?

He's literally just playing the minutes- he's not doing anything good in them except being tall and skating
Jul. 24, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
I'm not saying this is a win but Seth Jones is a big upgrade. This contract sucks but when you're $20M under the cap who cares? This was a good move and contract isn't ideal but oh well. Bottom line, Hawks upgraded their roster today. Also I don't like Boqvist so bye.


And we get him for $5.4m this year! Overall a good move, our defense will definitely improve and this will help the growth of Lankinen too. Contract a little on the high side, I though more 8-9m so he had a good win on that side of things but he is a legitimate 1D and has proven he can play in all situations and play big minutes. Been top 5 in TOI the last few seasons. People will use Analytics to downplay his ability but you can use analytics to downplay McDavid so they must be taken with a grain of salt. Lets give the guy a chance to showcase his ability.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
Why?

What has he done to warrant 7.5m?

He's literally just playing the minutes- he's not doing anything good in them except being tall and skating


Yeah even 7.5 is probably to much
Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.
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Nah. Neal, erricsson, Ladd, Skinner (as you mentioned), etc all way worse.

Jones is easily a 7-9 million dollar player now. But it won't age well


He is most certainly not 7-9 million now. He hasn't been worth above 6 mil in 4 years. Right now, his value is about 3 mil. His reputation is the only thing worth 7 mil.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: JackAce91
He is most certainly not 7-9 million now. He hasn't been worth above 6 mil in 4 years. Right now, his value is about 3 mil. His reputation is the only thing worth 7 mil.


Hall > Jones and he got $6m × 4y
Jul. 25, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Y-I-K-E-S

Easily the most overpaid player in the league (besides Jeff Skinner)


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Jul. 25, 2021 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: JackAce91
He is most certainly not 7-9 million now. He hasn't been worth above 6 mil in 4 years. Right now, his value is about 3 mil. His reputation is the only thing worth 7 mil.


3 million? Dude plays 25 minutes a night which is insane to positive possession numbers.

And where does 4 years come from. All of 2017-18, 2018-19, and 2019-2020 he received Norris votes...
Jul. 25, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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thank you jarmo for passing
Jul. 25, 2021 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
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Neither player is good
Jul. 25, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Neither player is good


Jones>Karlsson
Jul. 25, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Jones>Karlsson


Yes, but both are terrible
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Jones>Karlsson


It's been longer since Jones was good than for Karlsson
Jul. 25, 2021 at 8:00 p.m.
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pp lol
 
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