Wait 3 years and this will stink a lot. There is really no way to consider this good for the hawks in anyway as it's 8 YEARS (if this was 2-3 years or something I'd say it's somewhat fair)!
So in 3 years a 29 year old Seth Jones isn’t going to be a good hockey player? Bit pessimistic.
This was a rough signing. It's a lot of money. The contract isn't Skinner bad or EK bad or Bob bad. It's a lot of money though. He needs to get some kind of Norris consideration in order to live up to it. He is the best Dman in the Hawks right now...so they are better than last year. I've been on here for years saying the 2-way dmen already harder to find than puck movers...so I'm at least happy we have a true #1 rd.
Fair point. My analysis is a little off, but regardless this is horrible.
I don’t disagree. Look I dislike Boqvist so good riddance but at the same time if we think he has EK65 potential which is his comparable why not let him develop and keep your picks? What if Hawks win the lottery next year and miss out on Shane Wright? Idk… Bowman had a bad day. Dislike the Nolan Allen pick too.
1) Jones has a reputation for being an elite D-man... He is not.
2) He is overpaid and could be a boat anchor contract in 5-6 years.
3) He is still good and is still a top pairing D. A change of scenery will be huge for him.
4) Giving up Boqvist and all those picks is an astonomical price to pay... Odd that they didn't go all in for Hamilton instead and offer him 10x7
He had one bad year his underline stats are good he has a good two way game but what we offered him is gonna turn into the next Karl Alzner
he most certainly does not have a good two way game. He had one really bad year after several average years. He is atrocious defensively and barely above average offensively.
I'm not saying this is a win but Seth Jones is a big upgrade. This contract sucks but when you're $20M under the cap who cares? This was a good move and contract isn't ideal but oh well. Bottom line, Hawks upgraded their roster today. Also I don't like Boqvist so bye.
And we get him for $5.4m this year! Overall a good move, our defense will definitely improve and this will help the growth of Lankinen too. Contract a little on the high side, I though more 8-9m so he had a good win on that side of things but he is a legitimate 1D and has proven he can play in all situations and play big minutes. Been top 5 in TOI the last few seasons. People will use Analytics to downplay his ability but you can use analytics to downplay McDavid so they must be taken with a grain of salt. Lets give the guy a chance to showcase his ability.
Nah. Neal, erricsson, Ladd, Skinner (as you mentioned), etc all way worse.
Jones is easily a 7-9 million dollar player now. But it won't age well
He is most certainly not 7-9 million now. He hasn't been worth above 6 mil in 4 years. Right now, his value is about 3 mil. His reputation is the only thing worth 7 mil.
He is most certainly not 7-9 million now. He hasn't been worth above 6 mil in 4 years. Right now, his value is about 3 mil. His reputation is the only thing worth 7 mil.
He is most certainly not 7-9 million now. He hasn't been worth above 6 mil in 4 years. Right now, his value is about 3 mil. His reputation is the only thing worth 7 mil.
3 million? Dude plays 25 minutes a night which is insane to positive possession numbers.
And where does 4 years come from. All of 2017-18, 2018-19, and 2019-2020 he received Norris votes...