Trying to figure out Eichels value

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Created by: RemiLavoie

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 24, 2021

Published: Jul. 24, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Lehkonen, Artturi		2	$2,800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Savard, David	4	$3,500,000
Deangelo, Anthony	2	$1,500,000
Armia, Joel	3	$3,000,000
Perry, Corey	1	$850,000
Staal, Eric	1	$1,200,000
Stastny, Paul	1	$2,400,000

Trades

MTL

Eichel, Jack

BUF

Byron, Paul
Guhle, Kaiden
Harris, Jordan [Reserve List]
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [RFA Rights]
Poehling, Ryan [RFA Rights]
2022 1st round pick (MTL)
2023 1st round pick (MTL)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$70,087,977	$597,561	$1,475,000	$11,412,023

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 5	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,800,000$2,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Stastny, Paul $2,400,000$2,400,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Armia, Joel $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Perry, Corey $850,000$850,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Deangelo, Anthony $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
Staal, Eric $1,200,000$1,200,000 C UFA

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Caufield, C.		Perry, C.		Stastny, P.
	Eichel, J.		Suzuki, N.

Power Play 2
Anderson, J.		Gallagher, B.		Drouin, J.
	Toffoli, T.		Petry, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Armia, J.	Evans, J.
	Chiarot, B.	Savard, D.

Penalty Kill 2
	Lehkonen, A.	Suzuki, N.
	Edmundson, J.	Petry, J.

Jul. 24, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.

csick

KFTW

Joined: Jul. 2018

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Pretty sure it costs Suzuki which is why you don’t do it

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Jul. 24, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.

DDossett

Joined: Sep. 2020

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Yeah trying to figure his trade value and trying not to include your best players is two different things.
Also as soon as you click paul byron you should know your not really trying to make a fair unless you dont like it when your done.

Jul. 24, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.

GoodIdeaAtTheTime

Joined: May 2021

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Quoting: csick

Pretty sure it costs Suzuki which is why you don’t do it

It wouldn't and shouldn't. Fair to say Suzuki and Caufield are untouchable.

Deal as is is pretty close IMO. Before the ridiculous Reinhart deal, I'd have said the Sabres would target Primeau. KK as a centerpiece that makes sense. 2 1sts and Poehling then would be the bare out of conference minimum so adding Guhle (even if the Sabres don't need LD) and smaller pieces to make the deal look bigger makes sense. Overall, a reasonable effort. Could see the Sabres wanting Lehkohen instead of Byron.

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Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.

csick

KFTW

Joined: Jul. 2018

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Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime

I just don’t see them being interested in Guhle.

I can see :
Kotkaniemi
Primeau
B+ or A- forward prospect
2022 1st
2023 1st

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Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:12 p.m.

math731

Zuke is the goat

Joined: May 2017

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Yeah we should at least keep Guhle… Especially since they dont really need a lhd. KK (hurts to give him but necessary), Ylonen, Harris, 2xfirst

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Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Q1. What's Jack Eichel's value if he plays 62+ games in 2021-2022?

Q2. What's Jack Eichel's value if he plays 41+ games in 2021-2022?

Q3. What's Jack Eichel's value if he plays 20+ games in 2021-2022?

Q4. What's Jack Eichel's value if he plays less than 20 games in 2021-2022?

The problem is that we don't know how many games he's capable of playing this season, so we don't really have any logical way of knowing what he's worth.

Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:40 p.m.

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

Joined: Jan. 2017

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EICHEL👏IS👏NOT👏WORTH👏FIVE👏FIRST👏ROUND👏PICKS👏

Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:41 p.m.

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

Joined: Jan. 2017

Posts: 7,036

Likes: 4,429

Quoting: OldNYIfan

If I sum it up:

He's is injured without a clear recovery plan. Value goes way down.

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