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McSenko Paired

Created by: NoWah49
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 24, 2021
Published: Jul. 24, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
STL
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Safin, Ostap
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
19$81,500,000$71,790,301$669,339$907,500$9,709,699
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Turris, Kyle
$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
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Neal, James
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Bear, Ethan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
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Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
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NTC
UFA - 1
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Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
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Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Jul. 24, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.
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blues decline dont want cap dump
Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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yes because every thinks Tarasenko is sh*t why not just leave him alone if you think that OOOH that's right you don't you just don't want to pay to get back.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:12 p.m.
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Get serious.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:21 p.m.
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NoWah49
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
yes because every thinks Tarasenko is sh*t why not just leave him alone if you think that OOOH that's right you don't you just don't want to pay to get back.


Quoting: mokumboi
Get serious.


Seattle wouldn't take him for literally nothing. what's his value really at?
Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.
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Seattle wouldn't take him for literally nothing. what's his value really at?


It's not that they didn't want him look who they got instead a cost controlled contract for a player who is guaranteed a Top 4 and is very active. This is worth more because you have extra cap space to take cap dumps for my draft capital which as you know they are now building a roster so guess what draft picks are worth more.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
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Quoting: NoWah49
Seattle wouldn't take him for literally nothing. what's his value really at?


(sigh)

First of all, Seattle was doing an expansion draft, not trading. Secondly, he was only left exposed in an attempt to protect Dunn. Thing the third, erm, did you see some of the dregs Francis picked in an effort to spend as little money as possible?

Dude, you have not even offered enough value here for anyone to take Kassian the human dump. The Blues are not taking that garbage contract, and they will be expecting a proper payment for their now-healthy star sniper, who apparently has suitors all over the place since his medical report got out.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:50 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
(sigh)

First of all, Seattle was doing an expansion draft, not trading. Secondly, he was only left exposed in an attempt to protect Dunn. Thing the third, erm, did you see some of the dregs Francis picked in an effort to spend as little money as possible?

Dude, you have not even offered enough value here for anyone to take Kassian the human dump. The Blues are not taking that garbage contract, and they will be expecting a proper payment for their now-healthy star sniper, who apparently has suitors all over the place since his medical report got out.


Can't find the medical report. Do you have the source?

btw: I know a lot of Oilers Fans (probably I included) overvalue Kassian, but you certainly undervalue him. A proper trade would look something like Kassian for future considerations, or MAYBE the Oilers have to add a late-round pick at worst. There are teams in the league who apparently like what he can bring (The Blues are not one of that teams, because you have a few players like him, just better players), and thats why, as an Oilers fan, you could hope that he brings you back a pick or something.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 7:11 a.m.
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Quoting: GermanGretzky
Can't find the medical report. Do you have the source?

btw: I know a lot of Oilers Fans (probably I included) overvalue Kassian, but you certainly undervalue him. A proper trade would look something like Kassian for future considerations, or MAYBE the Oilers have to add a late-round pick at worst. There are teams in the league who apparently like what he can bring (The Blues are not one of that teams, because you have a few players like him, just better players), and thats why, as an Oilers fan, you could hope that he brings you back a pick or something.


1- Not sure if you have the Athletic, but here ya go.

2- He's a 30 yo still on a 3x3.2 who has only provided any value when a passenger with McD or Drai. Otherwise, he's basically useless. And no team that isn't swimming in free cap space will want anything to do with him. He has negative value like any other true cap dump.
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 7:28 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
1- Not sure if you have the Athletic, but here ya go.

2- He's a 30 yo still on a 3x3.2 who has only provided any value when a passenger with McD or Drai. Otherwise, he's basically useless. And no team that isn't swimming in free cap space will want anything to do with him. He has negative value like any other true cap dump.


Thanks!

Apparently there are teams, who have at least a bit interest.
A true cap dump for me is a player who can't get in a NHL lineup (and I think Kassian is still capable of that). But like I said, with his contract, for me he has zero value (neither negative nor positive and if any, then slightly negative). But I guess, we'll never find a common ground on this, so let's just say: The Blues are never gonna take Kassian, because for them Kassian has truely a negative value!
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