I think Tampa would rather buy him out than do that.

Why would Detroit have any interest in Stralman? he's a RD we don't need Moritz Seider will be 100% in the lineup we don't need either Stralman or DeAngelo taking up Seider's spot.

I would love to see that Tampa return but I don't think it happens, I'm guessing they at most give up a first round pick. The buy out for him isn't that great I feel their best option is a trade, and he could fill a hole in Detroit. Wouldn't mind seeing that Stralman deal but we have a few RD for this season.

Buy out saves 3.5 . TB keeps very young valuable assets.
Julien Briesbois has on numerous occasions said Hugo isn't available now I know that's GM speak for it'll cost more than most are willing to pay that isn't it.
There's no chance in hell Yzermann brings in douchebag DeAngelo

Because we get an additional 2nd, and have the option to trade him with retained salary for even more, additionally Detroit is notorious for slow growth, so i dont anticipate Seider in the bigs for the full season... AND even if he was as ready as we hope, we can buy out Dekeyser and its still worth the additional assets from taking Stralman, FLA looks like theyre spending to the cap, so full 5.5 is worth a 2nd.

If all it took to get rid of him was a first, he'd be gone already. They've been willing to part with that for a long time now.

I feel like this ask is very reasonable all things considered. They arguably have the best goalie in the league for many years to come. A goalie prospect is not that insanely valuable and the other kid is more nhl ready but doesn’t screw up their roster or even take the 1sr rounder

Yeah I don't disagree but replace Barre Boulet with a 1st and I think it's more likely something they think about. There is also one annoying Tampa fan on here who swears they will never trade Alnefelt so who knows?

And there are many ANNOYING Detroit fans on here that think they'll just give him away so who knows

After the recent events, do we need Alnefelt? Nedeljokvic so far has proven to be quite reliable, Cossa is still quite a few years away but if we can sign another veteran back up next season we should be good. That said I would love to have him in the system cause the more high end goalie prospects the better.

Sure bud. Whatever gets you through the day.

So Julien Briesbois is a liar is that what you are saying? I tend to take people at there word until they give reason not to Briesbois doesn't say anything if he's wanting to hide **** so when he does make comments I believe him.

I would say yes, Ned looks good, sure. Cossa? hes never played a single NHL game and neither has Hugo, so its absolutely worth adding to the depth, and I would argue Goalie more than any other position needs healthy Competition to get the best out of the player.

Well now we know who you are don't we? Still waiting on that proof...

Stralman & Staal are similar but there’s two differences. First, Staal cost 3.2M while Stralman is 4.5M. Second, Staal played a position we needed to fill and I don’t know where Stralman slots with Hronek, Seider, Stetcher, and Lindstrom taking the RD spots. That being said I think it would cost more than Staal.


When did JB say this about Hugo? I’ve asked a couple TB fans but they never can say or provide the source.

I mean im not sure whether Staal had already been paid his signing bonus when we took him, but he had 1 year at 5.7 cap hit. Stralman has 1 year with 5.5 I'm fairly certain if the bonuses or actual paid salary are not an issue for Detroit. So if you take that out of consideration, how is asking for a 2nd any different?

I understand what you are saying about the actual roster spot but Lindstrom is barely ready for a bottom pairing, and again we really arent sure about Seider being full time, or really even Dekeysers health with him being out constantly, I dont see how this would be anything more than a salary dump for FLA and then allowing us to create depth and flip him when ready. It seems like a decent deal

$1M signing bonus $4.5M actual salary. Staal was only $3.2M and filled a position of need. Lindstrom played pretty good at the end of last year, I think he deserves a shot at fighting for a roster spot, Seider might be too good for AHL, that said still unknown.
Florida also got themselves in a bit of cap trouble by trading for Reinhart, that said I would want a bit more on return, maybe just a fourth to go along with it.
Maybe we try and help them for next year to and take verhaege off their hands as well, next season they are going to be in big trouble with the cap with barkov and a bunch of other decent players needing deals.
Or we could try and not help them for a chance to sign barkov as a UFA.

Why do you think salaries aren’t a concern for Detroit? You can look at it a multitude of ways. First being that we know teams have internal budgets thus increasing the cost to move. We’ve seen Yzerman buy out Abdelkader to save actual cash and prolong the cap hit instead burying the contract. It’s important to note, Yzerman wasn’t up against the cap when he made that move. The second is Yzerman actually wanted Staal for his leadership and he filled a roster spot which is why he also just brought him back. Third being you’re proposing a pick 2 years away while the Staal was the next draft.

In terms of roster spots, Seider just won SHL defensemen of the year and has grown his game every year. Yzerman during the press conference for the Leddy trade essentially said he acquired him to help stabilize the left side to play with a young/prospect. So given who we have signed on the left and right side I don’t see Stralman as really getting a shot like Staal did which is why I said it would cost more. As for Lindstrom he played well to finish the year and is a developing into a defensive d that plays a calm game and has been mentioned as getting more of an opportunity.

I’m not saying it would cost a Lundell/first round pick + to move him but rather something like 2020 second round pick + 2023 third or fourth.

I heard that clip on a radio show Dave Mishkin does back in late March early April

I would like to take on more assets, but i would rather be conservative and ask for what i believed was realistic, maybe a 2nd and 4th is more realistic. I do believe Yzerman has the green light to spend whatever money is necessary to build a champion. I dont have it quoted but its been heavily implied on radio and interviews that he has "autonomous" control and likely wouldnt have taken the job had he not.

, I dont think he bought out Abby for money, it was because that contract was trash and he was a dead roster spot, he needed open more than the cash was concerned. More importantly the sooner hes bought out the sooner that trash contract is off the books so in years to come he will in fact have the cap to spend.

Thanks, I’ll have to dig that up. You’re the first to actually list a source.


Having autonomous control doesn’t mean there necessarily isn’t an internal budget. The Gator buyout saved cash and just prolonged the cap. I’d understand the buyout as a point there wasn’t an internal budget if he used the cap but he didn’t. He could’ve also been buried so a roster spot isn’t a sticking point. So my rationale is it came down to he wasn’t effective player in Yzerman’s eyes and he’d rather save a little bit of cash at the expense of later cap. Probably won’t be an issue as the core of the team will be cost controlled. Ironically, Stralman was just moved for Kolyachonok (second rounder) + second round pick for a 7th.

So you were ore right than me, took more than a 2nd.

Doesn’t always happen. Just try to use comps to establish a market. Sometimes teams undersell like the Ladd to Arizona deal but maybe they know he’s LTIR bound soon.

Either way wish we had taken that deal.

Yeah, 2x second rounders value wise is a-okay with me.