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Created by: Ed_
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 27, 2021
Published: Jul. 27, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,570,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$2,750,000
2$1,000,000
2$825,000
4$2,250,000
Trades
1.
2.
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [RFA Rights]
DET
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Anderson, Joey
  3. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  4. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
  2. 2022 4th round pick (BUF)
4.
TOR
  1. Carlsson, Gabriel
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
5.
TOR
  1. 2022 6th round pick (CBJ)
  2. 2023 5th round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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Logo of the CHI
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$80,378,117$0$0$1,121,883
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$4,570,000$4,570,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
$825,000$825,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jul. 27, 2021 at 5:22 a.m.
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No thanks, Bert is worth more to Detroit.
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Jul. 27, 2021 at 6:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
No thanks, Bert is worth more to Detroit.


Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.
Jul. 27, 2021 at 7:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Joronto
Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.


It's not so much how many you have it's more the quality, like you said one teir 2 prospect. Would rather leave the teir 3 prospects and the teir 2 and get a teir 1 guy. That's what I think he's getting at, we have alot of B and C level guys in the system, maybe not alot alot but enough. We are lacking the high end prospects other than Raymond Sieder and Edvinsson. You could probably drop two of those guys maybe even all 3, put Robertson in and it's a better deal.
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Jul. 27, 2021 at 7:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Joronto
Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.


What would you say if I offered you Namestnikov, Newpower, Niederbach, 2023 2nd and 2024 3rd for Nylander?
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Jul. 27, 2021 at 7:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Joronto
Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.


I'm not sure it's necesserily more value per se. Fewer better assets would be better. The 1st is great, and imo necessary, then I would just want 1 great prospect.
Detroit's need is quality not quantity. If you look at the draft just gone every pick was a wild swing for the fences, we have plenty of bottom/middle 6 forwards, plenty of bottom 4 D, we need either 1 star, or ~2 more VERY good players to form a top line and top pair. 1st + Toronto's best forward prospect would be appropriate.
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Jul. 27, 2021 at 7:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
It's not so much how many you have it's more the quality, like you said one teir 2 prospect. Would rather leave the teir 3 prospects and the teir 2 and get a teir 1 guy. That's what I think he's getting at, we have alot of B and C level guys in the system, maybe not alot alot but enough. We are lacking the high end prospects other than Raymond Sieder and Edvinsson. You could probably drop two of those guys maybe even all 3, put Robertson in and it's a better deal.


Already clear with the quality. Tier 2 in this case is premium!!!
TIER 1 only is drafted once in a while. It is Matthews / McDavid caliber. This type of player plus a first and a second is hilarious.

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What would you say if I offered you Namestnikov, Newpower, Niederbach, 2023 2nd and 2024 3rd for Nylander?


I would say: that are a a lot of names starting with N. 😅 And there is no first rounder included, also Nylander has term left, Bert is a RFA. So I can't take this comparison seriously.
Jul. 27, 2021 at 9:03 a.m.
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I'm not sure it's necesserily more value per se. Fewer better assets would be better. The 1st is great, and imo necessary, then I would just want 1 great prospect.
Detroit's need is quality not quantity. If you look at the draft just gone every pick was a wild swing for the fences, we have plenty of bottom/middle 6 forwards, plenty of bottom 4 D, we need either 1 star, or ~2 more VERY good players to form a top line and top pair. 1st + Toronto's best forward prospect would be appropriate.


i feel like bertuzzi is not a good enough player for this to be the ask. sam reinhart just got a first and a so-so goalie prospect, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi ten times out of ten. buchnevich got a second and a bottom six player, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi as well. this ask is strange given the market for forwards/wingers rn.
Jul. 27, 2021 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i feel like bertuzzi is not a good enough player for this to be the ask. sam reinhart just got a first and a so-so goalie prospect, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi ten times out of ten. buchnevich got a second and a bottom six player, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi as well. this ask is strange given the market for forwards/wingers rn.

But you're missing the point, those guys wanted to be traded and the organizations had to move them... Detroit doesn't want to or have to move Bertuzzi, nor does Bertuzzi want to be moved, so there is no reason for Detroit to even take "market value" - overpay, or no trade.
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Jul. 27, 2021 at 8:10 p.m.
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The GM can just trade you to Arizona or Buffalo for a 5th N a Bag of Hockey Pucks instead if the player doesn't accept the trade then.
Use the extra Cap 2 sign Saad INSTEAD!
 
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