Chychrun Dvorak and next season

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Created by: Kartana

Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2021

Published: Jul. 30, 2021

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I've seen a lot of offers for Chychrun lately. I'll save everyone some time and say that he is untouchable. End of story. Especially with all the atrocious offers proposed here, but it would still be the same if they were better. He is our cornerstone piece and will be joined by Wright soon.

Montreal fans seem to want Dvorak. Still, no offers worth our time are presented. I'll give my offer that I'd consider. Not saying I'm accepting it, just something to think about. Take it our leave it. We are happy to keep him around otherwise. Really have no reason to trade him. I'm also giving my thought on a return from Minnesota.

I know I'll get scolded. Don't worry, I'm used to it. Most of my offers for Coyotes players have been bashed. In the end I was pretty much right on all of them (at least closest to the final deal). For example, Garland straight up for #8 or #9 in this year's draft. OEL for cap dumps and a 2nd. A 1st + 3rd for Kuemper (even returned more). Not saying I'm right this time, but even so I'm still 3/4.

Lastly, a look at our roster for next season. I think we can surprise, but wouldn't bet on it. Also only seeing Roussel play of the guys from Vancouver and we are probably getting a goalie. Some young guys will also get their chance at some point, if that is sooner or later training camp will decide.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Timmins, Conor		2	$1,000,000
Imama, Bokondji		1	$800,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Dvorak, Christian		4	$4,450,000
Dvorak, Christian		4	$4,450,000

Trades

ARI

Byron, Paul
Guhle, Kaiden
2022 1st round pick (MTL)

MTL

Dvorak, Christian
2022 5th round pick (ARI)

ARI

MIN

Dvorak, Christian
2022 3rd round pick (ARI)

ARI

Something in return. We like picks.

VGK

Kessel, Phil ($3,400,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Any team interested. He wants to leave before the season starts and reportedly BA is trying to make that happen.

Buyouts

Michael Grabner: $1,258,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $990,000 (12%)
Darcy Kuemper: $1,000,000 (22.22%)
Phil Kessel: $3,400,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$74,096,117	$196,951	$82,500	$7,403,883

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Dzingel, Ryan $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 5	Keller, Clayton $7,150,000$7,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 7
Crouse, Lawson $1,533,333$1,533,333 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000	Jaskin, Dmitrij $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Roussel, Antoine $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Larsson, Johan $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Fischer, Christian $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Imama, Bokondji $800,000$800,000 LW UFA - 1	O'Brien, Liam $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Ladd, Andrew $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Eriksson, Loui $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Beagle, Jay $3,000,000$3,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Strålman, Anton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hutton, Carter $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD RFA - 2	Korenar, Josef $750,000$750,000 G RFA - 1
Provolnev, Vladislav $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) LD UFA - 1	Lyubushkin, Ilya $1,350,000$1,350,000 RD UFA - 1
Capobianco, Kyle $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Boldy, Matthew $880,833$880,833 ($0$0$0$0) ($600,000$600K) RW, LW UFA - 2
Rask, Victor $2,000,000$2,000,000 ($875,000$875K$875,000$875K) C UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 ($2,275,000$2M$2,275,000$2M) LW, RW UFA - 2

Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:01 a.m.

Subbanator7667

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Don't think MTL would give up Guhle but Poehling and Harris or Struble would do the trick

Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:02 a.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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I’d do this, if the Yotes buy out Byron and he re-signs for cheaper in Montréal.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:05 a.m.

NLidstrom

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I agree AZ could surprise, but I just don’t see where the scoring will come from. There’s a pile of solid pieces for the future though

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:09 a.m.

Kartana

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Quoting: NLidstrom

I agree AZ could surprise, but I just don’t see where the scoring will come from. There’s a pile of solid pieces for the future though

Totally agree. I just hope we are a tough team to play. I wouldn't think we are just yet, but will be/are hoping to be. That's our only way. Maybe Keller will finally work his magic under a new coach like we saw in his rookie season, but he's almost alone.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:14 a.m.

KrispyBBQ

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Really like those offers for Dvorak. I just don't think he is a guy we should be moving tho, unless it's an offer we cannot refuse (even tho some reason, lots of people here always undervalue him). I really like the trades cause we can get a little more value on what we get back by taking those bad 1 year contracts so good on that end. This team will be atrocious, but for some reason, I feel like they will be fun to watch. and hey, I proposed and predicted the Kuemper trade EXACTLY how it happened and I got scolded too, so don't worry haha.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:16 a.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

I’d do this, if the Yotes buy out Byron and he re-signs for cheaper in Montréal.

Don’t think the league would allow that again.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:18 a.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: KrispyBBQ

I find too many people on this site over value Dvorak. The reason the Yotes would want to move him is his contract compared to his play and worse yet is the money owed on that contract.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.

Kartana

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Quoting: KrispyBBQ

Haha, for some reason our players dont have any value, but in reality they do. Nice on Kuemper! I like the return and that we finally got that 1st and the fact he returned the same as Reinhart. I agree, I think it will be a team with more compete than we've seen in a long time. It will be bad, but hopefully worth watching. On Dvorak I 100% agree. At this point, especially since Kuemper got us a 1st, I see no reason in trading him. There's more value in having him play for our team and grooming young guys than what we are getting in a trade. When Guenther and other wingers are ready they need a good center to play with. Then we are hopefully getting Wright/Bedard and it will make their transition easier having Dvorak left.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.

KrispyBBQ

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Quoting: GenXHockey

I find too many people on this site over value Dvorak. The reason the Yotes would want to move him is his contract compared to his play and worse yet is the money owed on that contract.

I'd agree, it certainty goes both ways. Saw one for a 1st and boldy (I had to convince myself they were trolling.) i just tend to see more people undervaluing than overvalue, especially leafs and bruins fans. However I have noticed less now.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:30 a.m.

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Kartana

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Quoting: GenXHockey

I find too many people on this site over value Dvorak. The reason the Yotes would want to move him is his contract compared to his play and worse yet is the money owed on that contract.

I've got to disagree. The salary does increase, but it's still a really good contract. Maybe we'll find out, but at this point I don't think so as I really can't see him moved right now.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:35 a.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: Kartana

I've got to disagree. The salary does increase, but it's still a really good contract. Maybe we'll find out, but at this point I don't think so as I really can't see him moved right now.

Really good contract? Maybe with some extra wiggle room in lineup he can produce more but 4.5m and a career high of 38 points I believe. The fact that he is owed more money than his aav just makes him more attractive to move for the Yotes.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.

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Kartana

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Quoting: GenXHockey

I can change that to good. I don't think he is attractive to move for just us, as the 2 Coyotes fans here want to keep him and it's all other teams who are making offers. The points are reality, though. I could try to argue he will produce more with better linesmates and a more offensive team or that he will find a new gear soon, but that's only speculation. He isn't a point machine, but just a very reliable 200 foot center that is an elite #3 or a good #2 signed long term to a contract that is more than fair, still at a young age. It's not everyday those players are availabe so no wonder he's drawing interest.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.

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I feel it's alot like Bertuzzi in Detroit. Arizona has no reason to trade him, no one to replace him with, so his value is very high.
I'm wondering what the value on Keller is though? Hoping he rebounds for the yotes sake, but that's a bunch of money for a guy that hasn't put up elite numbers, still decent numbers but I don't think he's at his salary yet.
Also I know the ask would be high since there is no one to replace him really.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: Kartana

I think what you described as well the fact that he would be cheap to acquire. Risk/reward.

I think the reason he hasn’t been moved is the value the Yotes put on him compared to offers other GM’s are willing to make.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 10:56 a.m.

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Kartana

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Quoting: Lancebmx

I think you hit the nail on the head. Ask would be high, but the cost shouldn't be that because of his contract. Don't know exactly how it would look, but I think everyone is eager to see how he perfomes with our new coach who is good with younger guys and who can't be worse than Tocchet. Until next season, at least, don't see him moving and have a difficult time setting a price tag due to that. Maybe not the best answer as I think you wanted some kind of value, but I think it's hard to say now.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 11:07 a.m.

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Christian d isn't worth wild trading Matt Boldy

Jul. 30, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.

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Kartana

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Quoting: Amakoue

Christian d isn't worth wild trading Matt Boldy

I'd be hesitant to trade a center for a winger. Dvorak is also of huge need for us; now and in the future. This is only fair value trades.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.

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Quoting: Kartana

I'd be hesitant to trade a center for a winger. Dvorak is also of huge need for us; now and in the future. This is only fair value trades.

Wild wouldn't do this

Aug. 1, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.

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Quoting: GenXHockey

I took a look at his contract for fun : about 5m in salary for 4 more years. That's 500k more than his AAV, so he's barely owed more money than his AAV

Even if MTL AGM includes Dvorak 9 times out of 10, zero reason for ARI to move him after all this reading (unless of course the other team overpay)

Good read guys

Aug. 1, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.

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Quoting: pinslack

500k is a lot of money to the Yotes. Yotes are looking for players that are making half of their aav in real dollars.

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