Whats the cost and whats the best option

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Created by: NYRxLundqvist

Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2021

Published: Jul. 30, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I think all of these players are upgrades from strome so if the rangers where to try and acquire one what’s the price and what’s the best fit

Trades

NYR

Miller, J.T.

VAN

NYR

Kuznetsov, Evgeny

Additional Details:

Maybe you can convince someone to retain 2.3mil?

WSH

NYR

Couturier, Sean

PHI

NYR

Larkin, Dylan

DET

Buyouts

Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
28	$81,500,000	$87,420,635	$0	$7,550,000	-$5,920,635

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 5	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 6	Strome, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Blais, Samuel $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 6	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 1
Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 2		Kravtsov, Vitali $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 1
Hunt, Dryden $762,500$762,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Gauthier, Julien $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 1	Rooney, Kevin $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1
	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 3	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Kinkaid, Keith $825,000$825,000 G UFA - 1
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($350,000$350K) LD RFA - 2
Jones, Zachary $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 2
Tinordi, Jarred $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 2
Bitetto, Anthony $737,500$737,500 LD UFA - 1

Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.

Canucks33

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Vancouver would probably want one of the young defensemen like Lundqvist or Schneider to be involved.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

NYRxLundqvist

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Quoting: Canucks33

Vancouver would probably want one of the young defensemen like Lundqvist or Schneider to be involved.

If drury is unwilling to move them for eichel what do you think they say about it for Miller

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.

Jfstompers

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Detroit isnt in a spot to move Larkin really unless its a crazy overpay.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.

Billy12Bob

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Detroit have no interest in trading Larkin.

If you want him you'll have to offer a massive overpayment. Like Z-bad + Kakko + 1st.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.

flyersarephilly

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Unless Couturier makes it clear he won't resign in philly there's no chance he's being moved and he'd arguably be the best center on the team if you acquired him so it would cost a lot

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.

Meeqs

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Well considering only 1 of those guys is available and its from the team NYR's GM's hate its unlikely any of them are a good option

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.

Canucks33

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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist

If drury is unwilling to move them for eichel what do you think they say about it for Miller

I think if he could move one of them for Eichel 1 for 1 he absolutely would, its the fact that the Sabres want more that's causing problems. For Miller it would be a 1 for 1.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.

NYRxLundqvist

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

Detroit have no interest in trading Larkin.

If you want him you'll have to offer a massive overpayment. Like Z-bad + Kakko + 1st.

Lol stop talking to me

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Edited Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:23 p.m.

There is not a cost you're willing to pay for Larkin as it is admittedly, unreasonably high. Miller, Lafreniere and 2 1sts. That's the cost.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.

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Bloodykisame

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

Detroit have no interest in trading Larkin.

If you want him you'll have to offer a massive overpayment. Like Z-bad + Kakko + 1st.

Why would we trade an elite center for a 2nd line center as well as kakko and 1st ? This makes 0 sense even in the overpayment exaggeration.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.

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Bloodykisame

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

There is not a cost you're willing to pay for Larkin as it is admittedly, unreasonably high. Miller, Lafreniere and a 2 1sts. That's the cost.

Laf alone has more value than larkin. GL attempting to convince that's even reasonable as an overpayment exaggeration for a 2nd line center.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:19 p.m.

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Billy12Bob

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Quoting: Bloodykisame

Why would we trade an elite center for a 2nd line center as well as kakko and 1st ? This makes 0 sense even in the overpayment exaggeration.

You wouldn't.

Exactly in the same way we wouldn't trade Larkin for anything less.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.

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DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: Bloodykisame

Laf alone has more value than larkin. GL attempting to convince that's even reasonable as an overpayment exaggeration for a 2nd line center.

Not trying to convince anyone. We don't want to trade Larkin, he doesn't want to be traded and is our captain and heart of our team. Someone would have to overpay us in such a collosal manner, that their GM should be fired if they did it, that's my point. It's a non-topic.

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.

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DogDayCaps2

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Quoting: Bloodykisame

Why would we trade an elite center for a 2nd line center as well as kakko and 1st ? This makes 0 sense even in the overpayment exaggeration.

Larkin last 2 years
115gp 28g 48a 76p.... .66ppg or 54p/82gp
49.55cf% 48.72ff% 49.48xgf%

Zibanejad
113gp 65g 60a 125p 1.1ppg or 90p/82gp lmfao "2nd line center"
47.67cf% 47.88cf% 45.33xgf%

Kuznetsov
104gp 28g 53a 81p .78ppg or 64p/82gp (had COVID and missed a lot during this season BUT still better numbers)
47.45cf% 46.81ff% 48.24xgf%

Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.

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Bloodykisame

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Quoting: DogDayCaps2

I dont think you understood what I wrote, let me write it more plainly. ZIBA is better than larkin why would we make this deal? hopefully that makes sense.

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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.

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DogDayCaps2

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Quoting: Bloodykisame

I dont think you understood what I wrote, let me write it more plainly. ZIBA is better than larkin why would we make this deal? hopefully that makes sense.

i edited my post after reading it properly... lol i think i edited right as you quoted me

Larkin is actually pretty average / bad for a 1c

Jul. 30, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.

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theleano1

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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist

If drury is unwilling to move them for eichel what do you think they say about it for Miller

Then there is simply no trade to be made

Jul. 30, 2021 at 6:12 p.m.

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Xertalz

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Couturier is completely untouchable imo but even if he wasn't I doubt they'd trade him within the metro.

That being said, from a fair value perspective the Flyers would probably want Lafreiniere, Kravtsov + which doesn't really work for either team

Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:16 p.m.

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Ragsandbluesfan

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Quoting: flyersarephilly

Unless Couturier makes it clear he won't resign in philly there's no chance he's being moved and he'd arguably be the best center on the team if you acquired him so it would cost a lot

Oh he'd be our best easily

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