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3-way with Buffalo and Boston

Created by: Ledge_And_Dairy
Initial Creation Date: Jul 30, 2021
Published: Jul 30 at 5:49
Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Team Explanation
To Calgary
- Eichel

To Boston
- Monahan

To Buffalo
- Dube
- Zary
- 2022 1st
- 2023 2nd (conditional on Jacks health)

- DeBrusk
- Moore (cap reasons mostly)
- 2022 1st
- Vaakanainen

Calgary gets their long sought after 1C

Boston gets their replacement 2C for Krejci who should be able to build similar chemistry with Hall that he did with Gaudreau

Buffalo gets a few good young players in DeBrusk and Dube and a lot of futures
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zadorov, Nikita1$3,500,000
Välimäki, Juuso1$875,000
Kylington, Oliver1$1,000,000
Gawdin, Glenn2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Stone, Michael1$750,000
Trades
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Moore, John
  3. Vaakanainen, Urho
  4. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Monahan, Sean
Additional Details:
Part of 3-way trade
CGY
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Moore, John
  3. Vaakanainen, Urho
  4. Dubé, Dillon [RFA Rights]
  5. Zary, Connor
  6. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
  7. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
  8. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Condition on 2023 2nd based on Eichel's health
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
CGY
FLA
CGY
CGY
2023
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2024
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,738,333$0$0$761,667

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
CGY
Coleman, Blake
$4,900,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
CGY
Pelletier, Jakob
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Pitlick, Tyler
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
CGY
Gawdin, Glenn
$800,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Lewis, Trevor
$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 3
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
CGY
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
CGY
Zadorov, Nikita
$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
CGY
Tanev, Christopher
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Vladar, Daniel
$750,000
G
RFA - 2
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
$875,000
LD
RFA - 2
Stone, Michael
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CGY
Kylington, Oliver
$1,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
CGY
Froese, Byron
$725,000
C
UFA - 1
CGY
Ritchie, Brett
$900,000
RW
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Gaudreau, J.
Lindholm, E.
Tkachuk, M.
Hanifin, N.
Eichel, J.
Power Play 2
Pelletier, J.
Backlund, M.
Lucic, M.
Välimäki, J.
Mangiapane, A.
Penalty Kill 1
Lindholm, E.
Coleman, B.
Zadorov, N.
Tanev, C.
Penalty Kill 2
Backlund, M.
Pitlick, T.
Välimäki, J.
Stone, M.

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Jul 30 at 5:54
#1
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Done. Send in the paperwork...
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Jul 30 at 5:55
#2
PeterForsberg21
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Why don't the Bruins just trade for Eichel instead?
Jul 30 at 5:56
#3
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
Why don't the Bruins just trade for Eichel instead?


1. division rival, Pegula is on record saying he will only trade him out west
2. Boston doesn't have the assets (without gutting important roster players)
Jul 30 at 5:59
#4
NYI
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Way too complicated, too many moving parts. Unrealistic
Jul 30 at 6:13
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I'm in.

Quoting: BobbyD
Way too complicated, too many moving parts. Unrealistic


Huh? BUF is the only team who has to figure out the pieces here. BOS and CGY get one player back each. + BOS does not have the assets to trade for Eichel, or the cap space to make it work.

The word is BUF wants a big package of young assets. That's what's happening here. They get more than four 1st rounders in value (1st + 1st + Dube + Zary), plus they get a couple players for cap purposes who could also get flipped for assets at the trade deadline. This isn't a complicated structure. And in fact, the more you look at things, the more it makes sense for the Eichel trade to be a 3-way deal.

CGY wants to move on from Monahan...BUF is handcuffed and needs to trade Eichel for the best package available...and BOS needs a 2C to replace Krejci's gaping hole.
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Jul 30 at 6:16
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NYI
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Quoting: Tkachinla
I'm in.



Huh? BUF is the only team who has to figure out the pieces here. BOS and CGY get one player back each. + BOS does not have the assets to trade for Eichel, or the cap space to make it work.

The word is BUF wants a big package of young assets. That's what's happening here. They get more than four 1st rounders in value (1st + 1st + Dube + Zary), plus they get a couple players for cap purposes who could also get flipped for assets at the trade deadline. This isn't a complicated structure. And in fact, the more you look at things, the more it makes sense for the Eichel trade to be a 3-way deal.

CGY wants to move on from Monahan...BUF is handcuffed and needs to trade Eichel for the best package available...and BOS needs a 2C to replace Krejci's gaping hole.


Not saying it doesn’t make sense. Saying an 11 piece trade is incredibly unlikely.
Jul 30 at 6:18
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Quoting: BobbyD
Way too complicated, too many moving parts. Unrealistic

It’s not really that complicated. It’s just taking the Monahan+Zary+Dube+1st offer that everyone seems to agree is around fair value for Eichel, throwing in a conditional pick because GMs love those, then taking out Monahan to trade him somewhere else and substituting all of those assets into the trade instead. It’s actually incredibly simple lol
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Jul 30 at 6:24
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
Why don't the Bruins just trade for Eichel instead?


Boston don’t have the assets lol.
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Jul 30 at 6:52
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I don’t like losing Dube but I like this trade, Calgary would need a third line RW
Jul 30 at 7:10
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Quoting: CJets
I don’t like losing Dube but I like this trade, Calgary would need a third line RW


Seems like Treliving and Sutter are very confident that Pitlick will take that spot at 3RW.

Maybe you're referring to 3LW. In which case, yup. But assuming Pelletier doesn't make the team, then you would have $1.0-1.25M in cap space to sign a depth LW while keeping Lucic at 4LW.
Jul 30 at 7:12
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LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
1. division rival, Pegula is on record saying he will only trade him out west
2. Boston doesn't have the assets (without gutting important roster players)


It's tough to make a 2 way trade never mind a 3 way. But you seemed to have done it. Well thought out. Congrats.
Jul 30 at 7:45
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Quoting: BobbyD
Way too complicated, too many moving parts. Unrealistic


This is literally way less complicated than Duchene and EK65. Concept is 100% realistic, only question is on the value
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Jul 30 at 7:50
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Quoting: CJets
I don’t like losing Dube but I like this trade, Calgary would need a third line RW


Pitlick averaged 2nd line minutes over the last 3 years and has a very strong defense game. Its like adding Frolik from his good years
Jul 30 at 7:50
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Quoting: palhal
It's tough to make a 2 way trade never mind a 3 way. But you seemed to have done it. Well thought out. Congrats.


I also forgot to add in Boston definitely doesnt have the cap space. I woulf like some Bruins fans opinions on the trade though
Jul 30 at 9:23
#15
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This is legit. Well done 👌
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Jul 31 at 6:35
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This is literally way less complicated than Duchene and EK65. Concept is 100% realistic, only question is on the value


It’s certainly A LOT of pieces
Only Zary is high end though imo, so it’s possible it could get beat - especially if a team like LA, Minny or the Ducks decide to get serious

I wouldn’t be too upset if this were the deal that ends up happening though

I’d prefer the 3rd team wasn’t Boston though….
Don’t wanna help them at all
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Aug 1 at 7:54
#17
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Bruins fan here; I like it. We're giving up what Monahan would cost in a 1v1 trade, essentially just using it as a sweetener for CGY to entice BUF on an Eichel trade and help clear some cap for CGY. We obviously need help down the middle with Krejci leaving. I dont know if I can see Coyle stepping up. Thing with BOS is Don Sweeney is obsessed with internal competition and hoarding our prospects. And I personally think they try to play it out using a mix of Haula, Coyle, Studnicka at 2C before they even think about reverting to a trade. But I'd be glad if this happened for everyone. Eichel finally gets out of BUF, BOS gets their 2C, CGY gets 1C and BUF gets A LOT of futures and some young talent who can contribute right away.
Aug 14 at 12:11
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@Ledge_And_Dairy That would be quite the return for Eichel.
If I could make one change make it a 2022 second.
Then the Sabres have six picks in the first rounds next year.
The Flames are still giving up a lot to get him.
Monahan, Sean traded to Boston for players and picks
Dubé, Dillon [RFA Rights] third line center
Zary, Connor high potential of being a top six center
2022 1st round pick (CGY) should be among the last 8 in the draft.
2023 2nd round pick (CGY) so should be nearly a third.
Sabres get two players who would be in the line up next year, Dube and DeBrusk.
Two more prospects who could see action the following year, Vaakanainen and Zary.
For that return, I could see the Sabres holding some of Eichel's salary.
Quoting: Riley816
Done. Send in the paperwork...
You got that right.
Quoting: Buffalove
It’s certainly A LOT of pieces
Only Zary is high end though imo (this is true but there are two other first round picks, Dube and Vaakanainen, while DeBrusk may find more scoring opportunities in Buffalo as well), so it’s possible it could get beat - especially if a team like LA, Minny or the Ducks decide to get serious
I wouldn’t be too upset if this were the deal that ends up happening though
I’d prefer the 3rd team wasn’t Boston though….
Don’t wanna help them at all
I think Boston would be helping Buffalo more than Calgary is helping Boston.
This is a fair return for Monahan:
DeBrusk, Jake underperforming LW
Moore, John IMO a cap dump
Vaakanainen, Urho former first round pick not a huge asset
2022 1st round pick (BOS) Most likely one of the last 8.

One of the best returns for Jack Eichel IMO
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