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What I WOULDVE done if I was Ken Holland

Created by: MitchMarner_16
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2021
Published: Jul. 30, 2021
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Put on your imagination caps boys this is gonna be interesting!

In my humble opinion, Ken Holland has ruined this team. They made some horrible signings and trades.

Were going to go back in time, about 2.5 weeks ago to july 11, and I will make an ACGM of what I wouldve done in Holland's place.

Enjoy

-MM16
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Hyman, Zach
4$5,500,000
Trades
1.
EDM
    The term is too long here, hes 39, and $2,200,000 is a lot to pay for a backup.

    I would've let him go and found a younger, more long-term backup/1B
    2.
    EDM
      I honestly LOVE the idea of McDavid playing with Hyman on his LW. The term here is way too long especially with his injury history. Very few players, if any, are worth 5.5m in their late 30s.

      I wouldve tried to sign Hyman to 3-5 years, 4 ideally, or not signed him at all.
      3.
      EDM
        Just no. I know personally how bad he is. He didn't do horribly this season in Pittsburgh, but NOWHERE NEAR good enough for this contract. I'd take him as a bottom pair dman, maybe at under 1.5m, but still try to steer clear of Ceci, hes a defensive liability.

        Thats a no from me dawg
        4.
        CAR
          Foegele, Warren

          I wouldnt have made this trade
          5.
          EDM
          1. Jones, Caleb
          2. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
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          I wouldve kept caleb Jones, and stayed away from Keith
          6.
          EDM
            my protection list really wouldnt have changed, larsson wouldve still been left unprotected
            CHI
            7.
            VGK
              I wouldve signed him over Smith
              8.
              EDM
              1. Bean, Jake
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              I definitely wouldve acquired him if he was on the table
              CBJ
              1. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
              9.
              EDM
              1. Dillon, Brenden
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              Wouldve traded for him instead of Duncan Keith
              WPG
              1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
              2. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
              10.
              EDM
              1. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
              2. 2023 2nd round pick (TBL)
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              Anywhere for some picks/prospects, Jake Bean > Caleb Jones IMO
              Buyouts
              Retained Salary Transactions
              DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
              2022
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              Logo of the TOR
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              2023
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the TBL
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              2024
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the EDM
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              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
              22$81,500,000$78,416,839$669,339$907,500$3,083,161
              Left WingCentreRight Wing
              Hyman, Zach
              $5,500,000$5,500,000
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $12,500,000$12,500,000
              C
              UFA - 5
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $3,200,000$3,200,000
              RW
              UFA - 3
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $5,125,000$5,125,000
              LW, C
              NMC
              UFA - 8
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $8,500,000$8,500,000
              C, LW
              UFA - 4
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $3,500,000$3,500,000
              RW
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $850,000$850,000
              LW, C, RW
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $1,650,000$1,650,000
              C, RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $1,175,000$1,175,000
              RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $1,500,000$1,500,000
              RW, LW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
              C
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $725,000$725,000
              RW, C
              UFA - 1
              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $5,600,000$5,600,000
              LD
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $4,500,000$4,500,000
              RD
              UFA - 3
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $4,500,000$4,500,000
              G
              M-NTC
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
              $3,900,000$3,900,000
              LD
              UFA - 3
              Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
              $2,000,000$2,000,000
              RD
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
              $2,325,000$2,325,000
              G
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
              $2,333,333$2,333,333
              LD/RD
              RFA - 3
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
              RD
              RFA - 2
              ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $1,250,000$1,250,000
              C, RW
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $4,167,000$4,167,000
              LD
              M-NTC
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $1,250,000$1,250,000
              LD/RD
              UFA - 1

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              Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:25 p.m.
              #1
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              Signing Yam for that much is not great either…
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              Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:26 p.m.
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              A buddy of mine is Kenny's son-in-law. I tried to reason with him that he's totally lost it and is not even a top-25 GM in the league... needless to say I was put on blast saying what do I know, i'm not the one making 5mil a year lol
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              Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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              You would have had to pay more aav to Hyman for that short of term. Or just not get him at all. Yama at 5M seems like a bad idea and Pulj on the 3rd isn’t ideal.
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              Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:31 p.m.
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              I don't think you can just change players minds. Hyman isn't an oiler at less term. That stays if you keep him.

              Keith was an overpay, but I really like his fit here.
              You are also vastly overrating Jones. Guy's a bottom pair player (skill wise) for life. Overrated by many in this league. He's good, but no chance I'm paying any more than a 3rd for him.

              However I very much so agree with picking up Bean and Dillon. Brossoit too. (That yama contract is probably worse than anything holland has done so far tho)
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              Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:34 p.m.
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              Quoting: TheGHANDI90
              A buddy of mine is Kenny's son-in-law. I tried to reason with him that he's totally lost it and is not even a top-25 GM in the league... needless to say I was put on blast saying what do I know, i'm not the one making 5mil a year lol


              While I don’t disagree, it seems he has lost it but… no one thought Ceci or Barrie would have had as much success after their time in TOR. But other GMs new they would work out and other coaches could utilize them properly. This may be the case for some of these guys coming in this season, BUT I’m not sold that they are contending yet. They should be better
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              Jul. 30, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.
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              Quoting: Juiceman
              Signing Yam for that much is not great either…


              5M!
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.
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              I agree the Yamamoto signing was a bit much, but I had no clue how to judge his value. I’ll adjust to around 3.75

              I also understand that I can’t get Hyman for the term but I’d try
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:19 p.m.
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              Quoting: Juiceman
              Signing Yam for that much is not great either…


              Quoting: NYR1983
              You would have had to pay more aav to Hyman for that short of term. Or just not get him at all. Yama at 5M seems like a bad idea and Pulj on the 3rd isn’t ideal.


              Quoting: Wheel0fTime
              5M!


              Yamamoto deal adjusted
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:30 p.m.
              #9
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              Ceci's not a defensive liability lol.
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.
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              Quoting: Petey232323
              Ceci's not a defensive liability lol.


              You’ve obviously never watched him play.

              He’s horrendous
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 9:39 p.m.
              #11
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              Quoting: MitchMarner_16
              You’ve obviously never watched him play.

              He’s horrendous


              i have seen him play lmfao. he has a higher 2 year EVD War than Ryan McDonagh, Cale Makar, Josh Manson, Brian Dumolin, Jeff Petry, and VICTOR HEDMAN lol.
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.
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              Quoting: Petey232323
              i have seen him play lmfao. he has a higher 2 year EVD War than Ryan McDonagh, Cale Makar, Josh Manson, Brian Dumolin, Jeff Petry, and VICTOR HEDMAN lol.


              Advanced stats don’t show everything

              My own two eyes showed me how he is not good at defending. I watched so many defensive breakdowns, giveaways, and turnovers that he causes
              Jul. 30, 2021 at 11:03 p.m.
              #13
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              Quoting: MitchMarner_16
              Advanced stats don’t show everything

              My own two eyes showed me how he is not good at defending. I watched so many defensive breakdowns, giveaways, and turnovers that he causes


              Advanced Stats show way more than your potentially biased eye test.

              And giveaways arent really a great measure of defensive ability either.
              Jul. 31, 2021 at 8:40 a.m.
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              Quoting: Petey232323
              Advanced Stats show way more than your potentially biased eye test.

              And giveaways arent really a great measure of defensive ability either.


              Giveaways is one area you do not want your defensive players to have a lot of.

              I am not biased, I hoped that ceci would perform better for my teams sake, but he didn’t and I was quite disappointed. I watched him with Ottawa as well, and ceci is not a very good defender

              Agree to disagree?
               
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