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cant afford Hughes too small too expensive

Created by: kingkanuck
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 31, 2021
Published: Jul. 31, 2021
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Let's say Hughes thinks he worth $8.0M to 9.0M per year
I think that is far too much for a 5'10" 170lb. -24 Dman
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,000,000
7$10,500,000
2$1,000,000
3$2,500,000
2$750,000
Trades
VAN
  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor [RFA Rights]
  3. Siegenthaler, Jonas
  4. Zetterlund, Fabian
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
YS is 6'3" 195 and 23 scored 16 goals and 14 assist and is able to play anywhere in the lineup
JS is a 24 year old 6'3" 210 second round pick with 105 games of NHL experience
KB is a 6'6" 220 21 year old and a second round pick with potential as a shutdown Dman
FZ is 5'11" 196 C/RW and an improving second round prospect
NJD
  1. Hughes, Quinn [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,560,659$648,780$3,400,000$2,939,341

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 2
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,225,000$1,225,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$1,500,000$2M)
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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That return doesn’t even cover half the value of Hughes!
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Jul. 31, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.
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Sigh someone who doesn’t care about skill
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Jul. 31, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
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Hughes starts with Ty Smith, Yego Sharangovich, and a first round pick. Canucks don’t have to send Hughes to New Jersey so Jersey has to overpay to get him
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Jul. 31, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
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My first reaction to this trade was, "Man if we did this, our defense would have one top 4 D and 5 bottom pairing D", then I realized we are only one injury away from being in the same situation!
Jul. 31, 2021 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Hughes starts with Ty Smith, Yego Sharangovich, and a first round pick. Canucks don’t have to send Hughes to New Jersey so Jersey has to overpay to get him


Devils wouldn't pay that much for Quinn Hughes
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Jul. 31, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.
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AN "ORIGINAL SIX"
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I care about winning and I don't think you can win with a bunch of lightweight Dmen. That's why I don't want Ty Smith. Perhaps the second round pick could be upgraded to a first. Hughes is fun to watch but isn't nearly as good as Makar. Mark my words, he will get seriously injured at some point and then what have you got for your $8M ? Also trades have to work for both parties.
Jul. 31, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.
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Just be thankful you have Quinn Hughes. Jared Spurgeon is 5'9" and barely 170 pounds, yet has played 707 games in 11 seasons, three of which were shortened.
Jul. 31, 2021 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils wouldn't pay that much for Quinn Hughes


Ok. We are happy with Quinn Hughes and don’t need to trade him.
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Jul. 31, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Ok. We are happy with Quinn Hughes and don’t need to trade him.


I think we're both better off with the Hughes we have.
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Aug. 2, 2021 at 3:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils wouldn't pay that much for Quinn Hughes


ok u can have 2/3 hughes brothers vancouver will keep 1/3
ur a devils fan so ur def overvaluing ur players
Aug. 2, 2021 at 4:07 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Just be thankful you have Quinn Hughes. Jared Spurgeon is 5'9" and barely 170 pounds, yet has played 707 games in 11 seasons, three of which were shortened.


Counter points to that:
1. 0 Playoffs series with Spurgeon as a top pair RD.
2. 1 season without missing games due to injury. He misses about 8 games a year on average.
3. A career -14 in the Playoffs. +1 (once) is a career high.

Plainly put, small d-men don't work in the Playoffs. It's one of the reasons teams pay so much for the big bottom-6 grinders. They just beat on them until they wear down and make mistakes.
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Aug. 2, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.
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Quoting: yeboi6
ok u can have 2/3 hughes brothers vancouver will keep 1/3
ur a devils fan so ur def overvaluing ur players


You're a Canucks fan so you're definitely overvaluing your players
Aug. 2, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: yeboi6
ok u can have 2/3 hughes brothers vancouver will keep 1/3
ur a devils fan so ur def overvaluing ur players


It's not a matter of value, but of roster structure. We can't possibly afford to pay Quinn Hughes the contract he's going to demand when we already have Hamilton, Luke Hughes, and Ty Smith in the organization; we also don't need a top-pairing LHD-when we already have Ty Smith (and Luke Hughes as a prospect). Even worse, losing Sharangovich without replacement would leave us with all of two sure top-9 wingers. Even if the value were good - which I don't think it is, but that's not the main point here - this works for the Canucks organization, but it doesn't work for the Devils.
 
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