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Fiala post arbitration trade options

Created by: BoredWildFan
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2021
Published: Aug. 2, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
The Wild filed for arbitration. Fiala has the choice of a 1 or 2 year contract. I assume he chooses 2 years which will take him to UFA status. I think a trade would be inevitable.
Looking at trade options, I looked for teams that would be trying to win now and took back useful players those teams are looking to trade.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill4$7,750,000
Fiala, Kevin2$6,000,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  2. Bolduc, Zachary [Reserve List]
  3. 2022 1st round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Fiala, Kevin
2.
MIN
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Desnoyers, Elliot
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
    Fiala
    3.
    MIN
    1. Määttä, Olli
    2. Lemieux, Brendan
    3. Vilardi, Gabriel
    4. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
    Additional Details:
    Pick is lottery protected.
    LAK
      Fiala.
      Buyouts
      • Ryan Suter: $2,371,794
      • Zach Parise: $2,371,794
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2022
      MIN
      STL
      PHI
      LAK
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      SJS
      MIN
      2023
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      2024
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      21$81,500,000$87,219,313$0$732,500-$5,719,313
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      MIN
      Kaprizov, Kirill
      $7,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 5
      MIN
      Hartman, Ryan
      $1,700,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 3
      STL
      Tarasenko, Vladimir
      $7,500,000
      RW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Greenway, Jordan
      $2,100,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      MIN
      Eriksson Ek, Joel
      $5,250,000
      C
      UFA - 8
      MIN
      Foligno, Marcus
      $3,100,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 3
      MIN
      Boldy, Matthew
      $880,833
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      MIN
      Gaudreau, Frédérick
      $1,200,000
      C
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Zuccarello, Mats
      $6,000,000
      RW, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      MIN
      Rask, Victor
      $4,000,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      MIN
      Sturm, Nico
      $725,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      MIN
      Bjugstad, Nick
      $900,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      MIN
      Brodin, Jonas
      $6,000,000
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      MIN
      Spurgeon, Jared
      $7,575,000
      RD
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      MIN
      Talbot, Cam
      $3,666,667
      G
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Goligoski, Alex
      $5,000,000
      LD/RD
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      MIN
      Dumba, Matt
      $6,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Kähkönen, Kaapo
      $725,000
      G
      RFA - 1
      MIN
      Kulikov, Dmitry
      $2,250,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Merrill, Jon
      $850,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      MIN
      Addison, Calen
      $795,000
      RD
      RFA - 2
      Taxi Squad
      LAK
      Vilardi, Gabriel
      $894,167 ($0)
      C
      RFA - 1
      LAK
      Lemieux, Brendan
      $1,550,000 ($425,000)
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      LAK
      Määttä, Olli
      $3,333,225 ($2,208,225)
      LD
      UFA - 1
      PHI
      van Riemsdyk, James
      $7,000,000 ($5,875,000)
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      PHI
      Desnoyers, Elliot
      $845,833 ($0)
      LW
      RFA - 3

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      Aug. 2 at 9:03 p.m.
      #1
      Patient gm
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      Yii ok I will get roasted for the fiala value. I love him but that’s overvaluing him
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      Aug. 2 at 9:09 p.m.
      #2
      mokumboi
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      Blues pass. Maybe with Tank and the pick, but Bolduc makes it too much.
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      Aug. 2 at 9:13 p.m.
      #3
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      I wouldn't trade Vilardi for Fiala 1-for-1.
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      Aug. 2 at 9:28 p.m.
      #4
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      Quoting: mokumboi
      Blues pass. Maybe with Tank and the pick, but Bolduc makes it too much.


      That’s fair. In my original draft I had Vlad, Bolduc and a possible conditional pick based on players’ production. Decided to go with the 1st because Vlad’s value seems to be minuscule and the 1st would be late in the round.
      Aug. 2 at 9:33 p.m.
      #5
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      Quoting: tkecanuck341
      I wouldn't trade Vilardi for Fiala 1-for-1.


      Nor would I. That’s why I added a guy who was rumored as a possible buyout candidate and an easily replaced fourth line grinder. With the addition of Danault to their lineup, the Kings can afford to move Vilardi. If the additional 1st seems rich, so be it.
      Aug. 2 at 9:40 p.m.
      #6
      mokumboi
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      Quoting: BoredWildFan
      That’s fair. In my original draft I had Vlad, Bolduc and a possible conditional pick based on players’ production. Decided to go with the 1st because Vlad’s value seems to be minuscule and the 1st would be late in the round.


      There's a fair chance Tarasenko is being undervalued, which will become apparent if he starts the season scoring and the price shoots up.
      Aug. 2 at 9:52 p.m.
      #7
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      Quoting: BoredWildFan
      Nor would I. That’s why I added a guy who was rumored as a possible buyout candidate and an easily replaced fourth line grinder. With the addition of Danault to their lineup, the Kings can afford to move Vilardi. If the additional 1st seems rich, so be it.


      Minnesota adds in a Fiala for Vilardi swap, not LA.
      Aug. 2 at 9:57 p.m.
      #8
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      Quoting: Lightman13
      Yii ok I will get roasted for the fiala value. I love him but that’s overvaluing him


      There’s no need for the NHL guys unless they need cap going the other way. I would say that Carolina and NJ seem to make sense. Anaheim too.
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      Aug. 2 at 10:26 p.m.
      #9
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      CAR would be interested at right price
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      Aug. 2 at 10:34 p.m.
      #10
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      Quoting: vikhodush
      CAR would be interested at right price


      Yep this. Canes have a few roster ready prospects that can help with the cap issues over the next 3 seasons. Cotton, Bokk, Suzuki, etc.
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      Aug. 2 at 11:13 p.m.
      #11
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      Quoting: tkecanuck341
      Minnesota adds in a Fiala for Vilardi swap, not LA.


      Laughable. People overvaluing prospects which isn't even top prospect on kings. Fiala has better value
      Aug. 2 at 11:16 p.m.
      #12
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      Quoting: BoredWildFan
      That’s fair. In my original draft I had Vlad, Bolduc and a possible conditional pick based on players’ production. Decided to go with the 1st because Vlad’s value seems to be minuscule and the 1st would be late in the round.


      So wild take on worser players, contract and players in James R, and Vladimir R? Especially with wild r. Also kings proposal is bad
      Aug. 3 at 12:00 a.m.
      #13
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      Quoting: Amakoue
      Laughable. People overvaluing prospects which isn't even top prospect on kings. Fiala has better value


      If Fiala was 4 years younger and not guaranteed to become a UFA in 2 seasons, then maybe. Vilardi is the third best prospect on the team with the unanimously best ranked prospect pool in the league. He would immediately become the best prospect on over half the teams in the league. He's still on his ELC and is rights restricted for at least another 5 years. I'm not saying that Vilardi is currently a better player than Fiala (although he's not that far behind), but his age and contract situation makes him more valuable.
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      Aug. 3 at 12:05 a.m.
      #14
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      Quoting: Lightman13
      Yii ok I will get roasted for the fiala value. I love him but that’s overvaluing him


      I mean yeah. Wow. That's really over valuing him. Maybe more like

      Tarasenko
      1st

      Van Riemsdyk
      No kicker or a 2nd for a 3rd kind of thing

      Maata
      Vilardi
      Aug. 3 at 12:06 a.m.
      #15
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      Yep this. Canes have a few roster ready prospects that can help with the cap issues over the next 3 seasons. Cotton, Bokk, Suzuki, etc.


      I like the Canes as a trading partner for Fiala
      Aug. 3 at 12:07 a.m.
      #16
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      Quoting: tkecanuck341
      I wouldn't trade Vilardi for Fiala 1-for-1.


      Wow, I've been high on Vilardi for awhile. I'm glad to see my faith is not misplaced! I really like the guy.
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      Aug. 3 at 12:59 a.m.
      #17
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      If the Kings are trading Vilardi it's for a top LD, not Fiala, and not by adding a 1st round pick to it.
      Aug. 3 at 3:52 a.m.
      #18
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      Fiala has about the same value as Reinhart. I'm thinking it'll be a disappointing return for him.

      I know arbitration rarely goes all the way to a hearing, but I don't have a warm and fuzzy about this one being resolved. Strange move by MN since Fiala gets to pick the term (gotta be 2 years) and it'll lead him straight into UFA.
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      Aug. 3 at 9:30 a.m.
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      Quoting: wabit
      Fiala has about the same value as Reinhart. I'm thinking it'll be a disappointing return for him.

      I know arbitration rarely goes all the way to a hearing, but I don't have a warm and fuzzy about this one being resolved. Strange move by MN since Fiala gets to pick the term (gotta be 2 years) and it'll lead him straight into UFA.


      Sounds like Guerin isn't as high on Fiala as Fiala is on Fiala. Of course it helps our cap situation to not sign Fiala to a long term contract
      Aug. 3 at 10:41 a.m.
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      Quoting: Wildwinswhen
      Sounds like Guerin isn't as high on Fiala as Fiala is on Fiala. Of course it helps our cap situation to not sign Fiala to a long term contract


      I dunno. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground with GMBG. He either likes you or he doesn't and nothing else matters: skill, fit, team needs, etc.
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      Aug. 3 at 11:25 a.m.
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      Quoting: wabit
      I dunno. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground with GMBG. He either likes you or he doesn't and nothing else matters: skill, fit, team needs, etc.


      Yeah, and we'll see if that approach translates to wins 😬
      Aug. 3 at 11:43 a.m.
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      Quoting: Wildwinswhen
      Yeah, and we'll see if that approach translates to wins 😬


      Or how long it will keep him in a job.
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