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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 2, 2021
Published: Aug. 2, 2021
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  1. Mangiapane, Andrew
  2. 2023 4th round pick (CGY)
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C
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G
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Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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Doubt Flames accept with Mangi and Reilly 1 for 1. Mangiapane is a solid player with a steal of a deal
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Doubt Flames accept with Mangi and Reilly 1 for 1. Mangiapane is a solid player with a steal of a deal


Good thing it isn't one for one, also I assume it'd be a sign and trade
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:41 p.m.
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Flames decline. We need Mangiapane more
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Flames decline. We need Mangiapane more


You need a top 4 LD tho and it wouldn't hurt having him on your pp
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:42 p.m.
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No chance Flames do that
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Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
You need a top 4 LD tho and it wouldn't hurt having him on your pp


We need Mangiapane more
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No chance Flames do that


What would it take? I think the base of Mo for Mange makes too much sense
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:44 p.m.
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CGY needs Mangiapane for the next 5 years at an AAV around $5M much more than Rielly on an expiring contract that looks set to be $8M+ going forward based on the new market for Dmen.

CGY declines this deal pretty easily.
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Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
We need Mangiapane more


Even after the Coleman signing? Cgy seems pretty logjammed on Ws
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.
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What would it take? I think the base of Mo for Mange makes too much sense


Not available and we have no need for any of those players you offered. So no it makes zero s3nse for Calgary
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Even after the Coleman signing? Cgy seems pretty logjammed on Ws


Gaudreau Lindholm Tkachuk
Mangiapane Monahan Coleman
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Tkachinla
CGY needs Mangiapane for the next 5 years at an AAV around $5M much more than Rielly on an expiring contract that looks set to be $8M+ going forward based on the new market for Dmen.

CGY declines this deal pretty easily.


Doubt Rielly signs for $8M, not really in the same conversation as guys that have signed recently but he'd definitely be overpaid. I just think there's a chance that Treliving makes the deal due to a potential Gaudreau re-signing and a stacked W group
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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Even after the Coleman signing? Cgy seems pretty logjammed on Ws


No we arent, you realize Ritchie played in our top 6 last year right? We had a massive hole at top 6 RW last year
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Not available and we have no need for any of those players you offered. So no it makes zero s3nse for Calgary


Definitely not true but all good I know you hate this deal. Wouldn't be shocked if it actually happened (different players and picks surrounding though)
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Doubt Rielly signs for $8M, not really in the same conversation as guys that have signed recently but he'd definitely be overpaid. I just think there's a chance that Treliving makes the deal due to a potential Gaudreau re-signing and a stacked W group


Rielly will get $8M if this market holds for a bit. But it won’t be CGY giving him that deal.

Mangiapane is still growing his game and getting better every year. CGY needs to add a 1C (and replace Monahan in the process), and then add another 3rd pair LD. They aren’t in the market for a 1LD with no term and a looming salary hike.
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Tkachinla
Rielly will get $8M if this market holds for a bit. But it won’t be CGY giving him that deal.

Mangiapane is still growing his game and getting better every year. CGY needs to add a 1C (and replace Monahan in the process), and then add another 3rd pair LD. They aren’t in the market for a 1LD with no term and a looming salary hike.


The salary "hike" would likely be less than the increase from Manges current deal to his next. Based on Calgary's offseason they are going to continue pushing for playoffs meaning that a rental of a 1D is still valuable to them. I just think the hole left by Gio will be bigger than what most of you think
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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The salary "hike" would likely be less than the increase from Manges current deal to his next. Based on Calgary's offseason they are going to continue pushing for playoffs meaning that a rental of a 1D is still valuable to them. I just think the hole left by Gio will be bigger than what most of you think


The Gio hole starting showing up this past season. Yes, CGY is currently asking Hanifin and Valimaki to take up a big chunk of that loss, and that’s not enough to fill it. But signing or trading for a bottom 4LD and keeping Mangiapane is a much smarter move for the team both on the ice and from an asset management standpoint.

I’m expecting Mangiapane to start pushing 30G pretty soon. Especially if he’s playing with Lindholm and Coleman. The kid is very, very good. And that’s why CGY isn’t thinking of moving him anytime soon.
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
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I never understand the logic of these trades....obviously you trade Reilly because he an upcoming UFA. By the same logic, why do the Flames want an upcoming UFA? (actually you have traded two to Calgary, Mikheyev and Reilly)
Aug. 2, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
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Definitely not true but all good I know you hate this deal. Wouldn't be shocked if it actually happened (different players and picks surrounding though)


No it simply wont happen at all, Calgary management is extremely high on Mangiapane and we already acquired a top 4 LD so there is no need for Rielly at all, especially considering Hanifin was better than him by the end of last year
Aug. 3, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.
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I never understand the logic of these trades....obviously you trade Reilly because he an upcoming UFA. By the same logic, why do the Flames want an upcoming UFA? (actually you have traded two to Calgary, Mikheyev and Reilly)


Not to mention the argument of Calgary needs a 1D is contradictory because so does Toronto
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Aug. 3, 2021 at 12:25 a.m.
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I never understand the logic of these trades....obviously you trade Reilly because he an upcoming UFA. By the same logic, why do the Flames want an upcoming UFA? (actually you have traded two to Calgary, Mikheyev and Reilly)


Said above I think it'd likely be a sign and trade
Aug. 3, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.
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Said above I think it'd likely be a sign and trade


So, the contending Leafs ask their assistant captain. "Hurry up and sign a contract so we can trade your ass outta here to Calgary. Yea give up your chance at being a UFA. And if don't sign an extension you are welcome back as an important part of the Leafs as we make a Cup run in 21/22."
Aug. 3, 2021 at 12:47 a.m.
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So, the contending Leafs ask their assistant captain. "Hurry up and sign a contract so we can trade your ass outta here to Calgary. Yea give up your chance at being a UFA. And if don't sign an extension you are welcome back as an important part of the Leafs as we make a Cup run in 21/22."


Just say you don't know how sign and trades work
Aug. 3, 2021 at 12:51 a.m.
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What would it take? I think the base of Mo for Mange makes too much sense


Matthews
Aug. 3, 2021 at 12:53 a.m.
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Just say you don't know how sign and trades work


Yes, I do. You just wanted to post a trade...but had to include the very unreasonable "extension". clause.
So enlighten me, how does this sign and trade work in Reilly's case? and include the numbers for next years Flames contract.
 
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