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Marner is Wake Boarding Right Now

Created by: dannymills4
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 3, 2021
Published: Aug. 3, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew
  2. Lindholm, Elias
CGY
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Engvall, Pierre
2.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max ($2,650,000 retained)
CBJ
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
LAK
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
TOR
PIT
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,893,450$0$0$606,550

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
CBJ
Domi, Max
$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Brooks, Adam
$725,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Gabriel, Kurtis
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, M.
Matthews, A.
Nylander, W.
Tavares, J.
Sandin, R.
Power Play 2
Spezza, J.
Domi, M.
Lindholm, E.
Robertson, N.
Rielly, M.
Penalty Kill 1
Tkachuk, M.
Kämpf, D.
Muzzin, J.
Brodie, T.
Penalty Kill 2
Tavares, J.
Domi, M.
Dermott, T.
Holl, J.

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Aug. 3 at 4:33 p.m.
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ooof
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Aug. 3 at 4:34 p.m.
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Always in Pain
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CGY obviously declines...
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Aug. 3 at 4:34 p.m.
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Jah1722
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CGY declines.

And if your title is serious and you’re mad about it, you probably need to find something better to do with your time than internet stalking people.
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Aug. 3 at 4:35 p.m.
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Flames wouldnt trade either of those players for Marner let alone both
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Aug. 3 at 4:57 p.m.
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Dr.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames wouldnt trade either of those players for Marner let alone both


everyone knows wakeboarding skill doubles a players value on the ice
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Aug. 3 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames wouldnt trade either of those players for Marner let alone both


Even with Pierre Engvall added?!?!?
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Aug. 3 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames wouldnt trade either of those players for Marner let alone both


Marner is wayyyyyy better than both of those players. you're not freeing cap, and you're not getting remotely close in skill. You get more depth and grit you could get from a player in free agency or a cheaper trade.
Aug. 3 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: ccandy29
Marner is wayyyyyy better than both of those players. you're not freeing cap, and you're not getting remotely close in skill. You get more depth and grit you could get from a player in free agency or a cheaper trade.


Lol ok man, he's really not
Aug. 4 at 1:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol ok man, he's really not


He really is last time I checked a players value has to do with how successful they are in the regular season and ploffs, he hasn't been mister clutch in playoffs but he was over a ppg in 2017-18 and one back of a ppg in 2019 against CBJ, also your trading a player away who will most likely be a top 5 or top 10 point producer each year for Tkachuk who is good but never gonna be that player and Lindholm who is a good second liner
Aug. 4 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ccandy29
He really is last time I checked a players value has to do with how successful they are in the regular season and ploffs, he hasn't been mister clutch in playoffs but he was over a ppg in 2017-18 and one back of a ppg in 2019 against CBJ, also your trading a player away who will most likely be a top 5 or top 10 point producer each year for Tkachuk who is good but never gonna be that player and Lindholm who is a good second liner


Give Tkachuk or Lindholm a center like Matthews and they easily put up Marner level points. Marner literally has never even paced 30 goals a season, he's purely a playmaker and a small perimeter player. We already have one of those in Gaudreau, definitely dont need a 2nd
Aug. 5 at 12:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Give Tkachuk or Lindholm a center like Matthews and they easily put up Marner level points. Marner literally has never even paced 30 goals a season, he's purely a playmaker and a small perimeter player. We already have one of those in Gaudreau, definitely dont need a 2nd


if you are comparing marner to Gaudreau you are delusional. Marner has a good shot he doesn't get to use because of his role on his line. Tkachuk and Lindholm will never and have never been on the same level as marner

are you saying that Tkachuk and Lindholm are as good as Draisaitl with Mcdavid
Aug. 5 at 1:46 a.m.
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Quoting: ccandy29
if you are comparing marner to Gaudreau you are delusional. Marner has a good shot he doesn't get to use because of his role on his line. Tkachuk and Lindholm will never and have never been on the same level as marner

are you saying that Tkachuk and Lindholm are as good as Draisaitl with Mcdavid


Are you saying Marner is even remotely close to Draisaitl or McDavid?

This is really simple neither of those players are available for Marner 1 for 1. You asking for both is hilarious
Aug. 5 at 11:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Are you saying Marner is even remotely close to Draisaitl or McDavid?

This is really simple neither of those players are available for Marner 1 for 1. You asking for both is hilarious


The Calgary Flames would be cumming all over themselves if the leafs offered Marner for those 2. Idk if you look at stats ever but he has been WELL over a ppg in the last 3 seasons.

and my question is if you but Lindholm or Tkachuk with Mcdavid do they become top 10 players in the NHL. because you said they would put up better points with Matthews than Marner so does that mean that if they played with Mcdavid they would be as good as marner
Aug. 5 at 6:06 p.m.
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Quoting: ccandy29
The Calgary Flames would be cumming all over themselves if the leafs offered Marner for those 2. Idk if you look at stats ever but he has been WELL over a ppg in the last 3 seasons.

and my question is if you but Lindholm or Tkachuk with Mcdavid do they become top 10 players in the NHL. because you said they would put up better points with Matthews than Marner so does that mean that if they played with Mcdavid they would be as good as marner


I look at stats, you clearly only look at points though, Tkachuk is statistically better than Marner in every aspect of the game but passing the puck to Matthews.

Keep your overpaid winger, he's Gaudreau with some defensive skills, thats it

Wait you think Marner's a top 10 player? Oof, now it makes sense
Aug. 5 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I look at stats, you clearly only look at points though, Tkachuk is statistically better than Marner in every aspect of the game but passing the puck to Matthews.

Keep your overpaid winger, he's Gaudreau with some defensive skills, thats it

Wait you think Marner's a top 10 player? Oof, now it makes sense


hell no marners not top 10, top 20 forward. You are out of your mind if you think that Gaudreau is just as good offensively. 99% of the hockey world would beg to differ. Marner has been ahead of those guys in his last 3 years. I will keep my overpaid winger who gonna pick up 95+ next year while you compete for second place in the worst division in hockey
Aug. 6 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: ccandy29
hell no marners not top 10, top 20 forward. You are out of your mind if you think that Gaudreau is just as good offensively. 99% of the hockey world would beg to differ. Marner has been ahead of those guys in his last 3 years. I will keep my overpaid winger who gonna pick up 95+ next year while you compete for second place in the worst division in hockey


How am I out of my mind for thinking the guy who put up 99 points (and paced 115 for 80% of the season) is better than the guy who hasnt even paced 100 points yet. If you didn't know that took place literally in the last 3 years.

Again Flames don't consider this laughable trade offer
 
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