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Shatty TDL Discussion

Created by: A_K
Team: 2016-17 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2017
Published: Feb. 24, 2017
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I'm beating a dead horse, but I just want the band-aid ripped off!!!

The way I understand it, NYR/TOR/BOS/TBL are still in on Shattenkirk, and unless it's just a ploy, GM Armstrong has almost guaranteed that he will be traded. It will be as a rental, since Shatty has apparently declined a few sign-and-trades.

Am I crazy to expect returns like these? Please discuss...

Edit: I added a few more destinations, but I'm just spitballing on the returns. Needs work...
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. 2017 1st round pick (NYR)
2.
STL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Leipsic, Brendan
  3. 2017 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
    Shattenkirk
    3.
    STL
    1. Cehlárik, Peter
    2. Zboril, Jakub
    3. 2017 1st round pick (BOS)
    BOS
    1. 2017 4th round pick (STL)
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    Shattenkirk
    4.
    5.
    STL
    1. Pouliot, Derrick
    2. 2017 1st round pick (PIT)
    3. 2018 2nd round pick (PIT)
    PIT
      Shattenkirk
      6.
      STL
      1. Andrighetto, Sven
      2. Beaulieu, Nathan
      3. 2017 1st round pick (MTL)
      MTL
        Shattenkirk
        7.
        STL
        1. Reinhart, Griffin
        2. Slepyshev, Anton
        3. 2017 1st round pick (EDM)
        EDM
          Shattenkirk
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          Feb. 24, 2017 at 11:12 a.m.
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          That's 2x Shatty has screwed us (last yr vetoing the trade to EDM for Hall and now the Tampa deal which included Johnson I do believe). Anyway, extremely doubtful NYR gives up Buchnevich, Not crazy about the TOR deal although I think you're definitely in the right ballpark, the BOS deal would be a steal but maybe a bit too much of an ask, and the Tampa deal isn't enough IMO. If I'm trading with Tampa I want a Johnson or Palat coming back. But I agree, get it done already (I hear EDM and MTL are aggressively pursuing as well. That just gets better for us Blues fans)
          Feb. 24, 2017 at 11:47 a.m.
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          Quoting: JFo
          That's 2x Shatty has screwed us (last yr vetoing the trade to EDM for Hall and now the Tampa deal which included Johnson I do believe). Anyway, extremely doubtful NYR gives up Buchnevich, Not crazy about the TOR deal although I think you're definitely in the right ballpark, the BOS deal would be a steal but maybe a bit too much of an ask, and the Tampa deal isn't enough IMO. If I'm trading with Tampa I want a Johnson or Palat coming back. But I agree, get it done already (I hear EDM and MTL are aggressively pursuing as well. That just gets better for us Blues fans)


          Agree with you, it was likely TJ coming back in the sign-and-trade. And he would be an awesome add.

          I love Shatty but I don't understand what he's doing... going after another $0.5M per year? He's been so spoiled - playing with the shield of Petro (and now Parayko) to take on the tough match-ups so he gets the juicy PT, and now he's declined opportunities to play with young, rising teams with McDavid/Drai and Stamkos/Kucherov? To be close to home? I get that he's earned his UFA status, but he's being treated like one already. He's calling all the shots.
          Feb. 24, 2017 at 11:54 a.m.
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          Thanks again Shattenkirk!!!

          I don't get it. Shattenkirk gave a list of teams he would resign with to Armstrong. TB is obviously one of those teams. 7 years @ 6 million isn't enough? Wtf

          I'm starting to think Shattenkirk is blowing smoke up Army's rear saying he'll sign elsewhere and he's hell bent on UFA.
          Feb. 24, 2017 at 2:07 p.m.
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          I have a feeling Shattenkirk is going to hold out for 7.5...and some dumbass will pay. I like Armstrong but this is on him giving way too much say to a player who doesn't have a NTC. Anyways, the 2 new deals are just ok..Reinhart is an AHLer and gotta hold out for Juulsen or Schebak in the Mtl trade. And don't get me started on the Berglund extension.
          Feb. 27, 2017 at 8:00 a.m.
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          To all the people saying "Shattenkirk has screwed us again", he doesn't owe anything to the Blues. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent, he has every right to say no to a sign and trade deal. I've been a Blues fan all my life, but I certainly don't think Shattenkirk owes us a damn thing. He's earned the right to be a free agent and go anywhere he wants for how much he wants/someone is willing to give him.
           
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