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Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 3, 2021
Published: Aug. 3, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. 2023 7th round pick (VAN)
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Doug Wilson said he thinks the shakrs can be a playoff team so i would see him use a pick to gain 7 mil in cap space
2.
ARI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Hutton, Carter
Additional Details:
This Can clear good money for edmonton so they can try to get a better backup and in case they cant get on hutton can replace even though he isnt as good smith just did really good
3.
ARI
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (FLA)
CGY
  1. 2024 7th round pick (ARI)
Additional Details:
What must i say lucic is just a horrible player
4.
ARI
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Kessel, Phil
Additional Details:
High cap hit but nashville has pretty good cap space and they can contend next year if they add a couple more pieces kessel didnt evne do that bad last year
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$78,741,950$196,951$500,000$2,758,050
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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$1,533,333$1,533,333
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 4
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 5

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Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:12 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK WE WANT OUT OF LUCIC. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST LEADERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM AND WE AREN'T IN A CAP CRUNCH
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Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:14 p.m.
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Value is fine, but NSH shouldn’t be trading picks for aging talent.
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Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:16 p.m.
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That would be incredible for the Sharks to get Vlasic's cap hit off the books. I doubt Vlasic would want to waive his NMC though, so that would be an obstacle. Any interest in Burns or Couture, as painful as it is for me to say?
Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.
#4
OTTAWA Sean
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Fine trading for picks but not all owners want to spend millions all at once - when they just blew an entire season.

Food for thought - 14 picks in a year is a lot. Can you fit 14, 10, or even 8 players in the system? Can you afford 8 players (1st+2nd) all reaching their bridge / extension contracts at once? Might want to get some later year picks
Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Ottawasean
Fine trading for picks but not all owners want to spend millions all at once - when they just blew an entire season.

Food for thought - 14 picks in a year is a lot. Can you fit 14, 10, or even 8 players in the system? Can you afford 8 players (1st+2nd) all reaching their bridge / extension contracts at once? Might want to get some later year picks


CAR has drafted 33 players over the past three drafts (13 in 2021, 8 in 2020, 12 in 2019). I don't think having lots of prospects is necessarily a drawback. Especially if you're drafting from enough different development leagues/programs (CHL, NCAA, Europe, Russia). Your prospects will have more spread out timelines for turning pro that way.
Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.
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MisstheWhalers
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If Arizona got two or three picks to take Ladd they should get a hell of a lot more then one 2nd to take Vlasic.
Aug. 3, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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OTTAWA Sean
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Quoting: gmgb
CAR has drafted 33 players over the past three drafts (13 in 2021, 8 in 2020, 12 in 2019). I don't think having lots of prospects is necessarily a drawback. Especially if you're drafting from enough different development leagues/programs (CHL, NCAA, Europe, Russia). Your prospects will have more spread out timelines for turning pro that way.


Fair - and it's a manageable risk. But I would still rather get 2-3 picks in later years to avert later issues and avoid going all in on one draft year. Really comes down to if you think there are 8 players you really want in one round.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Vlasic won't waive. He made it painfully clear in his exit interview that he signed with SJ with a NMC because "it's the only place I want to play and I want to win here". I'm still hopeful he will regain his old form and become an elite shutdown dman again but that might be too hopeful.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 12:22 a.m.
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edmonton wont give up that much to ump koskinen, hes way under rated and is a solid backup, if thats what it cost might as well hold him for the year
Aug. 4, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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Pistol Pete
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WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK WE WANT OUT OF LUCIC. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST LEADERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM AND WE AREN'T IN A CAP CRUNCH


Lucic has a terrible contract and produces like a league minimum player its a cap world.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 10:43 a.m.
#11
Pistol Pete
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Arizona offloaded contracts because they cant afford to pay them. Why would they immediately reload?
Aug. 4, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
#12
Beanmachine
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I don't mind the cost to move Lucic if we were inclined to - a second makes sense.

However to label Lucic as a horrible player is just wrong. That "horrible player" scored 23 points in 56 games last year while offering great leadership and a undeniable physical presence!

Is his contract good - absolutely not - but he is a very useful bottom 6 player being paid too much.

He is sure as hell no Loui Eriksson or James Neal who were huge Cap hits who provided absolutely nothing of value for their teams!

So when the Flames look at the cap savings of moving Lucic they don't see a $5.25M savings they see a $2.5M savings as they would need to pay @ $2.5M for a comparable replacement player.
 
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