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Edmontons shrinking options in net

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Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2021
Published: Aug. 4, 2021
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Just Don’t overpay Ken, don’t do it.
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  1. Korpisalo, Joonas
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The one rumored to be the most likely
CBJ
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  1. Khudobin, Anton
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Not the most ideal starter, but still better than what they currently have. Won’t cost much
DAL
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  1. Talbot, Cam
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Doubt it, but maybe Minny wants to move forward with Kahkonen as their starter
MIN
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  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
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He is younger than all of the guys listed above and could have untapped potential
NYR
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  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Jarry, Tristan
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One of these two, I could see Pittsburgh wanting to move on from and make a move for an experienced veteran
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 2:54 p.m.
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You can safely assume Talbot will not be traded for the duration of his contract in Minnesota. Even if Kahkonen takes over the starter role this season, Talbot will be kept as the backup for two years.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.
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Edmonton had talbot as a goalie and he failed horribly. He is famous for letting the first shot of the game in. Georgiev isnt really what they are looking for they need someone who can produce immediately. Korpisalo is not actually that good in fact worse than koskinen and very expensive to acquire. Jarry is still pretty unproven. Khudobin I have time for, he isnt a rental and has a cost controlled contract which is the bigger thing for 22-23.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Dobby or Georgiev are your best bets. Talbot's not available. Korpisalo and Jarry both require likely overpayments.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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I can see these all happen except for Talbot
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:15 p.m.
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No you are so so wrong. Cam Talbot is geoing nowhere. Neither is Kaapo. Nice making up of reasoning. Wild don't have any other G ready so they aren't trading their #1 G on nice contract or 1b in Kaapo
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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No you are so so wrong. Cam Talbot is geoing nowhere. Neither is Kaapo. Nice making up of reasoning. Wild don't have any other G ready so they aren't trading their #1 G on nice contract or 1b in Kaapo


I said I highly doubt it would happen… I just threw it in there
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
I said I highly doubt it would happen… I just threw it in there


I misread it but point still stand in that Talbot isn't available
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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Dobby or Georgiev are your best bets. Talbot's not available. Korpisalo and Jarry both require likely overpayments.


Korpisalo would require an overpayment? He's a cap dump.

I guess paying *anything* for him would be an overpayment.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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Probably the best option: run with the Smith-Koskinen tandem. Together they've allowed just 2.89 GAA over the past 2 years - good for 12th best in the NHL - while playing behind a below average defense. If it ain't broke...
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
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Korpisalo would require an overpayment? He's a cap dump.


Well according to Rishaug CBJ requires Koskinen+Samorukov+1st and Holland is contemplating it. That falls to an overpayment category if you ask me.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 3:59 p.m.
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Well according to Rishaug CBJ requires Koskinen+Samorukov+1st and Holland is contemplating it. That falls to an overpayment category if you ask me.


LOL, Columbus has nerve. I wouldn't trade Koskinen for Korpisalo 1-for-1.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.
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Edmonton had talbot as a goalie and he failed horribly.


The same Cam Talbot who started 73 games for the '17 Oilers, finished top 4 in Vezina voting and had a .919? Even his stats on the 16 Oilers were good, they just ran him into the ground that year. He's rebounded well in Calgary and Minnesota. He didn't fail horribly in Edmonton, he wasn't the problem.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.
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Well according to Rishaug CBJ requires Koskinen+Samorukov+1st and Holland is contemplating it. That falls to an overpayment category if you ask me.


That's not an "overpayment", that's "worst trade in history" level stuff.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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LOL, Columbus has nerve. I wouldn't trade Koskinen for Korpisalo 1-for-1.


Well you're alone with that opinion, but you have the right to do that. Both of them are meh, but only one of them is overpaid.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.
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That's not an "overpayment", that's "worst trade in history" level stuff.


This organisation has their fair share of those so I'm not that surprised.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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No you are so so wrong. Cam Talbot is geoing nowhere. Neither is Kaapo. Nice making up of reasoning. Wild don't have any other G ready so they aren't trading their #1 G on nice contract or 1b in Kaapo


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I said I highly doubt it would happen… I just threw it in there


Well....he’s definitely available for the right price. It’s just that he’d cost far too much to ever make it worth it. Throw us Holloway and Koskinen and he’s all yours lol. Obviously kidding, but it would take a big overpay.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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Well you're alone with that opinion, but you have the right to do that. Both of them are meh, but only one of them is overpaid.


Koskinen has posted better stats than Korpisalo every season while playing behind a worse defense. If I'm alone with that opinion than everyone else is ****ing STUPID.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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Koskinen has posted better stats than Korpisalo every season while playing behind a worse defense. If I'm alone with that opinion than everyone else is ****ing STUPID.


I mean it's obvious that one playoff run seriously upgraded people's view on Korpisalo, but calling everyone stupid because they disagree with you is very, very childish.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
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I mean it's obvious that one playoff run seriously upgraded people's view on Korpisalo, but calling everyone stupid because they disagree with you is very, very childish.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me, that's your take. And basing your judgement of a player on 1.5 good weeks is very, very childish.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:31 p.m.
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Edmonton had talbot as a goalie and he failed horribly. He is famous for letting the first shot of the game in. Georgiev isnt really what they are looking for they need someone who can produce immediately. Korpisalo is not actually that good in fact worse than koskinen and very expensive to acquire. Jarry is still pretty unproven. Khudobin I have time for, he isnt a rental and has a cost controlled contract which is the bigger thing for 22-23.


Cam Talbot did not fail as our goalie LOL. the only goalie he was worse than in 16-17 was Sergei Bobrovsky.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Everyone doesn't disagree with me, that's your take. And basing your judgement of a player on 1.5 good weeks is very, very childish.


You're the first guy I've seen on this site who prefers Koskinen over Korpisalo with that contract. And even the professional journalists disagree with the notion. No one (except you apparently) thinks CBJ has to pay to move Korpisalo, but literally everyone thinks EDM must pay to move Koskinen somewhere else.

If he was cheaper, the discussion would be different. But this is a business, and contracts matter, usually more than the actual performance does.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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You're the first guy I've seen on this site who prefers Koskinen over Korpisalo with that contract. And even the professional journalists disagree with the notion. No one (except you apparently) thinks CBJ has to pay to move Korpisalo, but literally everyone thinks EDM must pay to move Koskinen somewhere else.

If he was cheaper, the discussion would be different. But this is a business, and contracts matter, usually more than the actual performance does.

Yeah, I like to think for myself instead of following along like a sheep. It's a fault of mine.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.
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Yeah, I like to think for myself instead of following along like a sheep. It's a fault of mine.


Yeah me too but I also like to hear and take account other peoples opinion and especially those of professional variety.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 5:48 p.m.
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Well according to Rishaug CBJ requires Koskinen+Samorukov+1st and Holland is contemplating it. That falls to an overpayment category if you ask me.


As per Rishaug Edmonton does not see a korpisalo trade as a viable option at this time... Seravali started the rumor but edmonton just asked what it would cost and it was too much.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 5:53 p.m.
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Cam Talbot did not fail as our goalie LOL. the only goalie he was worse than in 16-17 was Sergei Bobrovsky.


Talbot let the first shot of the game in lots and had 2 bad seasons in a row his SV% got better in calgary but letting in an easy one every game he still did there too. It deflated the team right out of the gate.
 
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