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Final piece for a long playoff season

Created by: Canuckel_head
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2021
Published: Aug. 5, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
Holloway definitely gets a few game taste to see where he is at in the big league.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Benson, Tyler2$850,000
Marody, Cooper2$925,000
Yamamoto, Kailer2$1,250,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
NYR
  1. Koskinen, Mikko ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Mikko Koskinen: $2,000,000 (44.44%)
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
Buried
  • Kyle Turris: $525,000 ($1,650,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2023
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2024
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,996,968$669,339$1,307,500$1,503,032
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,250,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
EDM
Ryan, Derek
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
EDM
Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
EDM
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$2,425,000
G
RFA - 1
EDM
Lagesson, William
$725,000
LD
RFA - 1
EDM
Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Holloway, Dylan
$925,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 3
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Marody, Cooper
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 5 at 1:33 a.m.
#1
Sabres are elite
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What are yours thoughts on Samorukov? Is he NHL ready? If so, would he get ice time over Lagesson or Russell?
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Aug. 5 at 2:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
What are yours thoughts on Samorukov? Is he NHL ready? If so, would he get ice time over Lagesson or Russell?


Samorukov definitely up'd his game in the KHL. I could definitely see him coming in an getting some NHL games. If he can out play Lagesson then he would stick around. Im hoping Oilers are open to that.
Is Samorukov going to be playing in North America this year or KHL?
Aug. 5 at 2:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
What are yours thoughts on Samorukov? Is he NHL ready? If so, would he get ice time over Lagesson or Russell?


Apparently Sammy is training in Edm right now and is looking like a beast, according to a comment I read a few weeks ago. He, along with Holloway and Benson are massive potential difference makers next season. If that happens, this team could go supernova, if the goaltending gets sorted out.

Also don't count out Konovalov or Broberg. It will be the most interesting season since Pronger was in town.
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Aug. 5 at 2:59 a.m.
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I think you are a little low on Yamo, I think he'll be in the neighbourhood of $1,7 million AAV.
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Aug. 5 at 4:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Wilbur
I think you are a little low on Yamo, I think he'll be in the neighbourhood of $1,7 million AAV.


Thats fair. I could see that.
Aug. 5 at 9:13 a.m.
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So what is a long playoff run, the 2nd round, because they aren’t beating VGK in the 2nd rd?
Aug. 5 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
So what is a long playoff run, the 2nd round, because they aren’t beating VGK in the 2nd rd?


Hoping to stretch it to 5 games this year.
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Aug. 5 at 9:54 a.m.
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Final piece? tears of joy

Anyway, the trade is terrible.

- Georgiev is a downgrade on Koskinen
- you didn't even save any money in the deal
- you gave up assets to do it

That's called a lose-lose-lose deal. The three main points (performance, cap and prospects) all took it in the pants.
Aug. 5 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Canuckel_head
Samorukov definitely up'd his game in the KHL. I could definitely see him coming in an getting some NHL games. If he can out play Lagesson then he would stick around. Im hoping Oilers are open to that.
Is Samorukov going to be playing in North America this year or KHL?


North America.
Aug. 5 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: rpain
Hoping to stretch it to 5 games this year.


Response of the month!
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Aug. 5 at 3:14 p.m.
#11
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Quoting: CD282
Final piece? tears of joy

Anyway, the trade is terrible.

- Georgiev is a downgrade on Koskinen
- you didn't even save any money in the deal
- you gave up assets to do it

That's called a lose-lose-lose deal. The three main points (performance, cap and prospects) all took it in the pants.


How do you see that? Koskinen is horrible (i.e., 0/4 on 4 shots vs. Vancouver in 2021). He is much older than Georgeiv and on the wrong side of his career peak. He is an overpaid backup. Georgiev is younger locked for two years on a good contract and hasnt hit his ceiling yet. To move out Koskinen means a loss to the Oilers any way you slice it. The Oilers are needing to start winning more playoff games now and with Smith and Koskinen that isn't happening, Georgeiv gives them a better shot.

I get the money piece....so retain less, only 1mil.
Aug. 6 at 8:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Canuckel_head
How do you see that? Koskinen is horrible (i.e., 0/4 on 4 shots vs. Vancouver in 2021). He is much older than Georgeiv and on the wrong side of his career peak. He is an overpaid backup. Georgiev is younger locked for two years on a good contract and hasnt hit his ceiling yet. To move out Koskinen means a loss to the Oilers any way you slice it. The Oilers are needing to start winning more playoff games now and with Smith and Koskinen that isn't happening, Georgeiv gives them a better shot.

I get the money piece....so retain less, only 1mil.

Georgiev has a good contract?? Somebody forgot to tell the Rangers! The only reason they're moving him is cap space - they know they can get replacement level goaltending for $750k and save money.

Over the past 2 years, Koskinen posted a .910 save percentage to Georgiev's .908. And Koskinen's mark was dragged down by the beginning of 20-21 when Smith was injured and Holland screwed up the backup situation repeatedly, and it meant the that Koskinen had to play every game of a wicked schedule - 12 games in 24 nights traveling thousands of miles through 4 timezones - which isn't something ANY goalie can stand up under. It wasn't fair to Koskinen but Tippett had little choice but to keep throwing him over the boards, so his results were poor over that stretch. I don't fault Koskinen for that, he did his best in an impossible situation.

If you pull those 12 games out of the equation to get a look at how he performs under normal circumstances, his save percentage over the past two seasons is .916, well above Georgiev's .908.

And before you blame NYR's defense, know that Koskinen faced 32.60 shots/60 to Georgiev's 31.99 SA/60 in all situations, and 32.34 SA/60 vs Georgiev's 31.03 at 5v5. Its not quality of shots either, as Koskinen has faced 8.50 HDSA/60 while Georgiev has faced 7.46.

So while Georgiev has some upside due to being just 25, in the short term I see this trade as a downgrade for Edmonton.

Quoting: Canuckel_head
The Oilers are needing to start winning more playoff games now and with Smith and Koskinen that isn't happening, Georgeiv gives them a better shot.

Your ignorance knows no bounds! Georgiev has played exactly zero NHL or AHL playoff games, the only professional playoff experience he has in his career is 81 minutes (over 3 games) in Finland, where he posted terrible numbers: 3.70 GAA and .857 sv%.

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