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Final piece for a long playoff season

Created by: Canuckel_head
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2021
Published: Aug. 5, 2021
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Holloway definitely gets a few game taste to see where he is at in the big league.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
2$925,000
2$1,250,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Koskinen, Mikko ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,996,968$669,339$1,307,500$1,503,032
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 5, 2021 at 1:33 a.m.
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What are yours thoughts on Samorukov? Is he NHL ready? If so, would he get ice time over Lagesson or Russell?
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Aug. 5, 2021 at 2:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
What are yours thoughts on Samorukov? Is he NHL ready? If so, would he get ice time over Lagesson or Russell?


Samorukov definitely up'd his game in the KHL. I could definitely see him coming in an getting some NHL games. If he can out play Lagesson then he would stick around. Im hoping Oilers are open to that.
Is Samorukov going to be playing in North America this year or KHL?
Aug. 5, 2021 at 2:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
What are yours thoughts on Samorukov? Is he NHL ready? If so, would he get ice time over Lagesson or Russell?


Apparently Sammy is training in Edm right now and is looking like a beast, according to a comment I read a few weeks ago. He, along with Holloway and Benson are massive potential difference makers next season. If that happens, this team could go supernova, if the goaltending gets sorted out.

Also don't count out Konovalov or Broberg. It will be the most interesting season since Pronger was in town.
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Aug. 5, 2021 at 2:59 a.m.
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I think you are a little low on Yamo, I think he'll be in the neighbourhood of $1,7 million AAV.
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Aug. 5, 2021 at 4:18 a.m.
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I think you are a little low on Yamo, I think he'll be in the neighbourhood of $1,7 million AAV.


Thats fair. I could see that.
Aug. 5, 2021 at 9:13 a.m.
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So what is a long playoff run, the 2nd round, because they aren’t beating VGK in the 2nd rd?
Aug. 5, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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So what is a long playoff run, the 2nd round, because they aren’t beating VGK in the 2nd rd?


Hoping to stretch it to 5 games this year.
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Aug. 5, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.
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Final piece? tears of joy

Anyway, the trade is terrible.

- Georgiev is a downgrade on Koskinen
- you didn't even save any money in the deal
- you gave up assets to do it

That's called a lose-lose-lose deal. The three main points (performance, cap and prospects) all took it in the pants.
Aug. 5, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Canuckel_head
Samorukov definitely up'd his game in the KHL. I could definitely see him coming in an getting some NHL games. If he can out play Lagesson then he would stick around. Im hoping Oilers are open to that.
Is Samorukov going to be playing in North America this year or KHL?


North America.
Aug. 5, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: rpain
Hoping to stretch it to 5 games this year.


Response of the month!
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Aug. 5, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.
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Final piece? tears of joy

Anyway, the trade is terrible.

- Georgiev is a downgrade on Koskinen
- you didn't even save any money in the deal
- you gave up assets to do it

That's called a lose-lose-lose deal. The three main points (performance, cap and prospects) all took it in the pants.


How do you see that? Koskinen is horrible (i.e., 0/4 on 4 shots vs. Vancouver in 2021). He is much older than Georgeiv and on the wrong side of his career peak. He is an overpaid backup. Georgiev is younger locked for two years on a good contract and hasnt hit his ceiling yet. To move out Koskinen means a loss to the Oilers any way you slice it. The Oilers are needing to start winning more playoff games now and with Smith and Koskinen that isn't happening, Georgeiv gives them a better shot.

I get the money piece....so retain less, only 1mil.
Aug. 6, 2021 at 8:55 a.m.
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How do you see that? Koskinen is horrible (i.e., 0/4 on 4 shots vs. Vancouver in 2021). He is much older than Georgeiv and on the wrong side of his career peak. He is an overpaid backup. Georgiev is younger locked for two years on a good contract and hasnt hit his ceiling yet. To move out Koskinen means a loss to the Oilers any way you slice it. The Oilers are needing to start winning more playoff games now and with Smith and Koskinen that isn't happening, Georgeiv gives them a better shot.

I get the money piece....so retain less, only 1mil.

Georgiev has a good contract?? Somebody forgot to tell the Rangers! The only reason they're moving him is cap space - they know they can get replacement level goaltending for $750k and save money.

Over the past 2 years, Koskinen posted a .910 save percentage to Georgiev's .908. And Koskinen's mark was dragged down by the beginning of 20-21 when Smith was injured and Holland screwed up the backup situation repeatedly, and it meant the that Koskinen had to play every game of a wicked schedule - 12 games in 24 nights traveling thousands of miles through 4 timezones - which isn't something ANY goalie can stand up under. It wasn't fair to Koskinen but Tippett had little choice but to keep throwing him over the boards, so his results were poor over that stretch. I don't fault Koskinen for that, he did his best in an impossible situation.

If you pull those 12 games out of the equation to get a look at how he performs under normal circumstances, his save percentage over the past two seasons is .916, well above Georgiev's .908.

And before you blame NYR's defense, know that Koskinen faced 32.60 shots/60 to Georgiev's 31.99 SA/60 in all situations, and 32.34 SA/60 vs Georgiev's 31.03 at 5v5. Its not quality of shots either, as Koskinen has faced 8.50 HDSA/60 while Georgiev has faced 7.46.

So while Georgiev has some upside due to being just 25, in the short term I see this trade as a downgrade for Edmonton.

Quoting: Canuckel_head
The Oilers are needing to start winning more playoff games now and with Smith and Koskinen that isn't happening, Georgeiv gives them a better shot.

Your ignorance knows no bounds! Georgiev has played exactly zero NHL or AHL playoff games, the only professional playoff experience he has in his career is 81 minutes (over 3 games) in Finland, where he posted terrible numbers: 3.70 GAA and .857 sv%.

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