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the TDL

Created by: leafs_and_devils
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2021
Published: Aug. 6, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
assuming each of these teams are out of a playoff spot
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2022 4th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Engvall, Pierre
2.
TOR
  1. Couturier, Sean ($2,166,667 retained)
Additional Details:
at the TDL, this is worth 210k (pro-rated hit), so the team remains cap compliant.
PHI
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Pavelski, Joe ($3,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
pro-rated hit is 340k, so this is cap compliant.
DAL
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$85,836,449$0$0-$4,336,449
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Couturier, Sean
$2,166,666
C
UFA - 1
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Pavelski, Joe
$3,500,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2

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Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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WE NEED AN ARMY
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Captain America playing in a Canadian market?? That'd be the day LOL
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Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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Couturier with retention catches at least a first at the deadline if the Flyers are out of it.
Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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Yeah that doesn't get you Couturier at 50% retained even if its only a rental
Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:47 p.m.
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Your cohort @G0_Leafs_GO has a contemporaneous post putting Engvall on waivers.
Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: krzyk0
Couturier with retention catches at least a first at the deadline if the Flyers are out of it.


sda is a future middle 6 winger so i feel like him and a 2nd are worth at least a first if not more
Aug. 6, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs_and_devils
sda is a future middle 6 winger so i feel like him and a 2nd are worth at least a first if not more


Assuming Dallas is out of the playoff race by the TDL (which I doubt they will be), if Pavelski has another year similar to what he was doing last year, I'm probably looking for a 2022 2nd in addition to Liljegren. Overpayment? Probably, but TDL deals are usually an overpayment for players that are going to be hot commodities for playoff/playoff bubble teams.

Hell, I'm probably trying to attach a 1st Round Pick condition to it based on how far into the postseason the Leafs go
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Aug. 6, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Not even close for Couturier, even as a rental
Aug. 6, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: TheMooterus
Assuming Dallas is out of the playoff race by the TDL (which I doubt they will be), if Pavelski has another year similar to what he was doing last year, I'm probably looking for a 2022 2nd in addition to Liljegren. Overpayment? Probably, but TDL deals are usually an overpayment for players that are going to be hot commodities for playoff/playoff bubble teams.

Hell, I'm probably trying to attach a 1st Round Pick condition to it based on how far into the postseason the Leafs go


i mean i'd do a 2nd and lily for pav probably. idk about a 1st and liljegren. i'd do that and more for a prime pavelski but he's also like 36 now lol
Aug. 6, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Xertalz
Not even close for Couturier, even as a rental


what would your ask be?
Aug. 6, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs_and_devils
sda is a future middle 6 winger so i feel like him and a 2nd are worth at least a first if not more


You seriously overestimate the value of a prospect and a second (which is not close to a first), and the value of Der-Arguchintsev in particular.

Let's consider just the winger prospects of some crummy teams (i.e., much weaker than the Maple Leafs):

Seventh-worst team in the NHL last season: Lias Andersson, Samuel Fa.gem.o, Arthur Kaliyev, Rasmus Kupari, Akil Thomas -- excluding top-6ers Alex Iafallo, Adrian Kempe, Dustin Brown and Viktor Arvidsson and center prospects Quinton Byfield, Alex Turcotte and Gabe Vilardi -- SDA doesn't replace any of those middle-6ers.

Second-worst team in the NHL last season: Isac Lundestrom, Jacob Perreault, Brayden Tracey and Sam Colangelo -- excluding top-6ers Max Comtois and Troy Terry and center prospects Trevor Zegras and Mason McTavish -- SDA isn't likely to crack the middle 6 of that group, either.

Even the hapless Buffalo Sabres have a better middle-6 winger prospect pool: Jack Quinn, John-Jason Peterka, Rasmus Asplund, Linus Weissbach.


In short, SDA isn't a future middle-6 winger unless he makes substantial progress from where he is now.
Aug. 6, 2021 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs_and_devils
i mean i'd do a 2nd and lily for pav probably. idk about a 1st and liljegren. i'd do that and more for a prime pavelski but he's also like 36 now lol


Would you do a 1st + Liljegren for a guaranteed Eastern Conference Finals berth? Because that's where the condition comes in. If Toronto doesn't make the ECF, it's a 2nd round pick. If y'all do, your 1st is going to be a very late 1st & you'll have a legit shot at a Cup.
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Aug. 6, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs_and_devils
what would your ask be?


Initial ask would probably be 2 firsts worth of value.
Maybe settle for a 1st and a good prospect, somebody better than SDA
 
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