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Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 7, 2021
Published: Aug. 8, 2021
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Just exploring value packages for 3 years of Kap at 3.5M. This won’t ever happen, I’m just playing the hypotheticals game. MIN signs Kap to a 3x7 and retains 50%.

If you see a value that is a way off, provide some feedback. I’m not an expert on your favorite team, so help me adjust.

The idea here is that Kap at 3.5M would generate enormous demand, I could see at least 25 teams being interested at that AAV, if not 31. There would presumably be a bidding war, and the hope is that among those ~25 interested teams, you’d get at least 1-3 GMs willing to overpay. It may not be your GM, but the below packages represent my view of a very solid return in this hypothetical event.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,000,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Kassian, Zack
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill
Additional Details:
MIN Retains 50%.
2.
MIN
  1. Brown, Dustin
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
LAK
3.
MIN
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Lundell, Anton
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
Is Hornq considered a cap dump?
FLA
4.
MIN
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. McMichael, Connor
  3. 2022 1st round pick (WSH)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (WSH)
WSH
5.
MIN
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Jarvis, Seth
  3. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
CAR
6.
MIN
  1. Coronato, Matthew [Reserve List]
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (CGY)
CGY
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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28$81,500,000$89,586,922$0$3,300,000-$8,086,922
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
C
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0)
C
RFA - 4
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$880,833$880,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 3
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$795,000$795,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$886,667$886,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 4

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Aug. 8, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
You’re an idiot. Spend 30 seconds to read the proposal and understand that Kaprizov is going back at 50% retained. It’s not Jarvis and a 1st for Gardiner. It’s for Kap at 3.5m. I hate that I even have to explain that, how isn’t it obvious?


Quoting: RazWild
And you're getting KAPRIZOV back in the trade. With retention, meaning he's at $3.5M AAV cap hit for THREE years.

Open your eyes. 🙄


Quoting: UBS_ARENA
Did you read the description at all? Or did you just come here to scorn. Because it's actually a steal for Carolina.


Okay, I love this debate, so let's go.

Krill Kaprizov is already 25, he had a fantastic rookie season, sure... in a weak division. You are trying to take on the equivalent of Seth Jarvis (ranked by most professional scouts as a broderline top 10 forward prospect in his own right) along with a 1st and other assets for 3 years of someone who is then going to test the free agent market?

Kaprizov here is a moot point because it's an incredibly stupid idea. Passing that, IT'S NOT WORTH IT! If he does it again this year, when he actually has to play teams like Tampa, Boston, Carolina, Islanders... hell even teams like St Louis and Florida, or the Rangers, or Toronto.... that's different. A lot of people had good years when they can play Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose, and Los Angeles 8 times each... buzz right off. Call me an idiot, you're going to look at points and try to justify it.

And before any of you come at me with "hE'S wHy MiNnEsOtA WeRe GoOd ThIs YeAr"

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So please think before you talk to me. And for calling me an idiot, I hope you enjoy your infraction, buddy!
Aug. 8, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Amakoue
- What are we doing? This is so mind fans. Speechless. Trading kaprizov, cap dump in Zack, ,and getting back a late 1st along Dylan h whose a lesser prospect than matt boldy, head shaking

- all of these deals are bad besides Florida


Quoting: Amakoue
Not to be disrespectful but wild aren't going to rebuilding with Jared spurgeon, and jonas brodin along with Joel Eriksson Ek contract, etc.. I just shake my head at the pessimism of Minnesota team fans along with idea, thought that a team would be mediocre without seeing them play or final touches to roster


Your reactions to these hypothetical value proposals are always complete astonishment, and I don’t understand why. It’s just a thought experiment and provokes good discussion around prices and returns in the overall trade market.

I’m not suggesting any of this would ever happen, but I still think it can be fun to have the conversation. You’d think it’s like taboo with some of your replies.

I’m genuinely curious, what do you think a fair return for Kaprizov would be in the hypothetical world where he is traded with 50% retained? Because that’s all I was trying to solicit from people with this post.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
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Okay, I love this debate, so let's go.

Krill Kaprizov is already 25, he had a fantastic rookie season, sure... in a weak division. You are trying to take on the equivalent of Seth Jarvis (ranked by most professional scouts as a broderline top 10 forward prospect in his own right) along with a 1st and other assets for 3 years of someone who is then going to test the free agent market?

Kaprizov here is a moot point because it's an incredibly stupid idea. Passing that, IT'S NOT WORTH IT! If he does it again this year, when he actually has to play teams like Tampa, Boston, Carolina, Islanders... hell even teams like St Louis and Florida, or the Rangers, or Toronto.... that's different. A lot of people had good years when they can play Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose, and Los Angeles 8 times each... buzz right off. Call me an idiot, you're going to look at points and try to justify it.

And before any of you come at me with "hE'S wHy MiNnEsOtA WeRe GoOd ThIs YeAr"

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So please think before you talk to me. And for calling me an idiot, I hope you enjoy your infraction, buddy!


I apologize for calling you an idiot. That was uncalled for. I just didn’t appreciate your knee jerk reaction comment when you very clearly didn’t spend the time to understand the post. Nonetheless, name calling wasnt needed.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Not a Cats fan but I know if they want to beat Tampa in the playoffs they'll need guys like Horny who can make things happen.


Yeah that’s fair, but I’d argue Kaprizov is much more of a game breaker than Hornqvist is.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
I apologize for calling you an idiot. That was uncalled for. I just didn’t appreciate your knee jerk reaction comment when you very clearly didn’t spend the time to understand the post. Nonetheless, name calling wasnt needed.


Sorry, you have to understand this is a website of idiots, and most of the time, they want pieces like suzuki and Jarvis for taking on contracts like Gardiner. It was also like really early and I hadn't had my coffee
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Okay, I love this debate, so let's go.

Krill Kaprizov is already 25, he had a fantastic rookie season, sure... in a weak division. You are trying to take on the equivalent of Seth Jarvis (ranked by most professional scouts as a broderline top 10 forward prospect in his own right) along with a 1st and other assets for 3 years of someone who is then going to test the free agent market?

Kaprizov here is a moot point because it's an incredibly stupid idea. Passing that, IT'S NOT WORTH IT! If he does it again this year, when he actually has to play teams like Tampa, Boston, Carolina, Islanders... hell even teams like St Louis and Florida, or the Rangers, or Toronto.... that's different. A lot of people had good years when they can play Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose, and Los Angeles 8 times each... buzz right off. Call me an idiot, you're going to look at points and try to justify it.

And before any of you come at me with "hE'S wHy MiNnEsOtA WeRe GoOd ThIs YeAr"

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So please think before you talk to me. And for calling me an idiot, I hope you enjoy your infraction, buddy!


And what were Vegas and Colorado? Chump change? If you're certain it was such a weak division, that fair. But you're imminently glossing over the fact that TWO out of the top 3 teams in the league played in that division last year. Kaprizov played well, and performed, against them too. He makes anyone he plays against look like idiots. That was true no matter which team it was, including the VGK and Aves. The division he played in last year is immaterial and inconsequential.

But please, do go on...
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
Yeah that’s fair, but I’d argue Kaprizov is much more of a game breaker than Hornqvist is.


Sure but not better than Lundell and Horny. Lundell is a top prospect and it makes no sense financially for the Cats.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:36 p.m.
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And what were Vegas and Colorado? Chump change? If you're certain it was such a weak division, that fair. But you're imminently glossing over the fact that TWO out of the top 3 teams in the league played in that division last year. Kaprizov played well, and performed against them too. He makes anyone he plays against look like idiots. That was true no matter which team it was, including the VGK and Aves. The division he played in last year is immaterial and inconsequential.

But please, do go on...


Yes, two of the top 3 teams yeah? The one that couldn't beat the other, and that one lost to the WORST TEAM In THE PLAYOFFS!
Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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Yes, two of the top 3 teams yeah? The one that couldn't beat the other, and that one lost to the WORST TEAM In THE PLAYOFFS!


Wait is your stance that Colorado and Vegas were not good teams this past year?
Aug. 8, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
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Wait is your stance that Colorado and Vegas were not good teams this past year?


No, no, no. I'm saying the division as a whole was weak, and that there are stronger teams in the league than those two (mainly Tampa Bay before they lost their 3rd line)
Aug. 8, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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No, no, no. I'm saying the division as a whole was weak, and that there are stronger teams in the league than those two (mainly Tampa Bay before they lost their 3rd line)


Yeah the overall division was weak, but if you’re using that as a basis for saying Kaprizovs numbers were inflated or he’s overrated, it sounds like you didn’t actually watch many games and are just using stats as a measuring stick. I don’t know how anyone that actually watched his games could call him overrated.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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Yes, two of the top 3 teams yeah? The one that couldn't beat the other, and that one lost to the WORST TEAM In THE PLAYOFFS!


So were the Blues when they won the cup three seasons ago.

Your point?

Every playoffs has at least one Cinderella story in it every year, that is nothing new. They just got their asses handed to them by the unequivocally unanimous best team in the league for the last two years in the cup finals. That is all. It's the playoffs, once you're in... anything can happen. That's kinda the point, and the reason why it's so hard to repeat as cup champions in the modern cap era.

That doesn't change or decry the fact that Colorado and Vegas are unanimously considered the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the league right now. Teams that Kaprizov, again, played very well against. Your counter argument doesn't change that fact, or really have any bearing on that. It just sounds desperate.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 4:42 p.m.
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Okay, I love this debate, so let's go.

Krill Kaprizov is already 25, he had a fantastic rookie season, sure... in a weak division. You are trying to take on the equivalent of Seth Jarvis (ranked by most professional scouts as a broderline top 10 forward prospect in his own right) along with a 1st and other assets for 3 years of someone who is then going to test the free agent market?

Kaprizov here is a moot point because it's an incredibly stupid idea. Passing that, IT'S NOT WORTH IT! If he does it again this year, when he actually has to play teams like Tampa, Boston, Carolina, Islanders... hell even teams like St Louis and Florida, or the Rangers, or Toronto.... that's different. A lot of people had good years when they can play Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose, and Los Angeles 8 times each... buzz right off. Call me an idiot, you're going to look at points and try to justify it.

And before any of you come at me with "hE'S wHy MiNnEsOtA WeRe GoOd ThIs YeAr"

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So please think before you talk to me. And for calling me an idiot, I hope you enjoy your infraction, buddy!


Lmao
1. He played st louis this year, 8 times.
2. Colorado
3. Vegas
You make it soumd like he didnt play any good teams.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.
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Dustin Brown is not a cap dump. He led the Kings in goals last season and still plays top line minutes. He's a locker room and fan favorite and won't be traded.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
Yeah the overall division was weak, but if you’re using that as a basis for saying Kaprizovs numbers were inflated or he’s overrated, it sounds like you didn’t actually watch many games and are just using stats as a measuring stick. I don’t know how anyone that actually watched his games could call him overrated.


I suggest you seriously look at his metrics. They strongly suggest that his production isn't sustainable. He might be fun to watch, but that doesn't make him good. Warren Foegele had a thousand breakaways this year, and was SO exciting, he was still garbage because he couldn't do anything with them. I'm not comparing Foegele and Kaprizov, but I strongly suggest you do not take 1 good rookie season to mean that he is a star
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
Lmao
1. He played st louis this year, 8 times.
2. Colorado
3. Vegas
You make it soumd like he didnt play any good teams.


St Louis were very mediocre.


So he played 16 games against genuine cup contenders... what suggests that this is sustainable? I tell you this because last season, he doesn't put those numbers up in the East. If he was in the central with Tampa Bay, Carolina, Florida, he likely doesn't put those numbers up. He strongly was aided from a weakdivision LMAO. That's not debatable. All that can be debated is the effect that had on how good he looked
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
So were the Blues when they won the cup three seasons ago.

Your point?

Every playoffs has at least one Cinderella story in it every year, that is nothing new. They just got their asses handed to them by the unequivocally unanimous best team in the league for the last two years in the cup finals. That is all. It's the playoffs, once you're in... anything can happen. That's kinda the point, and the reason why it's so hard to repeat as cup champions in the modern cap era.

That doesn't change or decry the fact that Colorado and Vegas are unanimously considered the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the league right now. Teams that Kaprizov, again, played very well against. Your counter argument doesn't change that fact, or really have any bearing on that. It just sounds desperate.


I wouldn't consider Vegas AND Colorado both top 3 teams last season. I wouldn't suggest they were both better than Carolina, I wouldn't suggest they were both better than Tampa. Top 5, different convo. As for the playoff run... yes, every year there is a cinderella story. That doesn't mean that there SHOULDN'T be. If you're the favorite, you're the favorite for a reason. If you play to your best as the favorite, 9/10, there's nothing the opponent can do to beat you. Your downfall is of your own making. Lets not forget that if Toronto were not allergic to series wins, Montreal get knocked out in 5 and we're looking at #FireBergevin trending again. But that is besides the point.

Kaprizov had an advantage in a weaker division, that is just a fact. You can debate how strongly this factors in on how good he is, but I, for one, would prefer to see him do it over a larger sample size playing every team before I declare him the next Russian superstar
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Dustin Brown is not a cap dump. He led the Kings in goals last season and still plays top line minutes. He's a locker room and fan favorite and won't be traded.






Yeah, they wouldn't trade him for Kaprizov at all. Don't be stupid, they make that trade in a heartbeat.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:24 p.m.
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I suggest you seriously look at his metrics. They strongly suggest that his production isn't sustainable. He might be fun to watch, but that doesn't make him good. Warren Foegele had a thousand breakaways this year, and was SO exciting, he was still garbage because he couldn't do anything with them. I'm not comparing Foegele and Kaprizov, but I strongly suggest you do not take 1 good rookie season to mean that he is a star


What metrics? He actually scores quite well in advanced stats, and played the entire year with Rask as a 1C. At this point, I can tell you’re just doubling down and grasping at straws, given that you just threw a desperation hail mary on analytics. I can appreciate if you don’t think he’s worth the proposed trade value, that’s your prerogative, but just say that’s your stance then. Don’t try and make things up.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.
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What metrics? He actually scores quite well in advanced stats, and played the entire year with Rask as a 1C. At this point, I can tell you’re just doubling down and grasping at straws, given that you just threw a desperation hail mary on analytics. I can appreciate if you don’t think he’s worth the proposed trade value, that’s your prerogative, but just say that’s your stance then. Don’t try and make things up.


On what analytics do you think he scores well? His xWAR is basically neutral, despite being an offensive powerhouse (NST) and his RAPM metrics (EH) are great offensively, but leave much to be desired in his own end. I cannot tell if you're not as up-to-date on analytics as perhaps others are, but this has been clear for a while. I don't know what you thought you were suggesting, but his analytics aren't anything special, and they basically suggest he'll come down from his current production. He'll be a 50-70 point guy, it's difficult to tell you exactly where off of like 50 games because that sample size is way too low (I personally hate tryint to evaluate players off of anything less than 3 years anyway, but a shortened season like this makes it far harder) but he's not a PPG player, not without some help.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.
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Dustin Brown is not a cap dump. He led the Kings in goals last season and still plays top line minutes. He's a locker room and fan favorite and won't be traded.


DB is also a 36 year old grinder. I can appreciate the loyalty angle, but I’d have a hard time believing any competent GM would consider him untouchable for someone of Kaprizovs caliber.
Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:42 p.m.
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On what analytics do you think he scores well? His xWAR is basically neutral, despite being an offensive powerhouse (NST) and his RAPM metrics (EH) are great offensively, but leave much to be desired in his own end. I cannot tell if you're not as up-to-date on analytics as perhaps others are, but this has been clear for a while. I don't know what you thought you were suggesting, but his analytics aren't anything special, and they basically suggest he'll come down from his current production. He'll be a 50-70 point guy, it's difficult to tell you exactly where off of like 50 games because that sample size is way too low (I personally hate tryint to evaluate players off of anything less than 3 years anyway, but a shortened season like this makes it far harder) but he's not a PPG player, not without some help.


I show his xSPAR as 4th behind Matthews, McDavid and Rantanen, which could be argued as a more useful and telling stat than WAR. I’m not an analytics guru and won’t claim to be, but from the articles and research I’ve done, it seems to be the overwhelmingly consensus that he’s very solid.

To be perfectly honest though, if you have watched Kaprizovs entire (or even a majority of) season and are legitimately coming to the conclusion that he’s a 50 pt guy, I think that’s a good place to end the conversation. At some point these discussions become fruitless, and arguing with someone over whether or not Kap is a 50 point guy is the line for me.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.
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I wouldn't consider Vegas AND Colorado both top 3 teams last season. I wouldn't suggest they were both better than Carolina, I wouldn't suggest they were both better than Tampa. Top 5, different convo. As for the playoff run... yes, every year there is a cinderella story. That doesn't mean that there SHOULDN'T be. If you're the favorite, you're the favorite for a reason. If you play to your best as the favorite, 9/10, there's nothing the opponent can do to beat you. Your downfall is of your own making. Lets not forget that if Toronto were not allergic to series wins, Montreal get knocked out in 5 and we're looking at #FireBergevin trending again. But that is besides the point.

Kaprizov had an advantage in a weaker division, that is just a fact. You can debate how strongly this factors in on how good he is, but I, for one, would prefer to see him do it over a larger sample size playing every team before I declare him the next Russian superstar


No one considers Carolina to be better than either Colorado or Vegas. The Hurricanes are routinely placed at or around 5th or 6th in most power rankings.

Kings: 6G 3A for 9 points in 8 games

Blues: 2G 1A for 3 points in 7 games

Aves: 3G 4A for 7 points in 8 games

Yotes: 5G 5A for 10 points in 8 games

Sharks: 4G 2A for 6 points in 8 games

Ducks: 1G 7A for 8 points in 8 games

VGK: 6G 2A for 8 points in 8 games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/kirill-kaprizov-stats-against-each-team-2021

While his shot to shooting percentage was high, it's varied enough and consistent enough to suggest it's not out of character for him. His KHL stats are similar, which is why to suggest that his metric data would drop in successive seasons and isn't sustainable is ludicrous. His metrics from both leagues show they are.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
St Louis were very mediocre.


So he played 16 games against genuine cup contenders... what suggests that this is sustainable? I tell you this because last season, he doesn't put those numbers up in the East. If he was in the central with Tampa Bay, Carolina, Florida, he likely doesn't put those numbers up. He strongly was aided from a weak division LMAO. That's not debatable. All that can be debated is the effect that had on how good he looked


You were the one that brought up St Louis not me. You can have your opinion and that's fine but when he had over a point per game against two teams that you called cup contenders its pretty thick of you to say he benefited from a weak division.
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Aug. 8, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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Yeah, they wouldn't trade him for Kaprizov at all. Don't be stupid, they make that trade in a heartbeat.


I didn't say the Kings wouldn't trade for him. I'm just saying they wouldn't trade Brown for him. Since he's clearly being treated as negative value in the trade, just take him out.
 
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