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All In for the Tank

Created by: MNBassman
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 7, 2021
Published: Aug. 9, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
20 years of mediocrity is enough! It’s time to get bad for a year or two and regroup with the Wild’s impressive cupboard of young talent.
LA and Car are both looking to win now, and both have impressive talent pools. Whether or not these two deals make sense, there are certainly trades to be made with these 3 teams. Make counter offers please.
All players acquired on the Wild’s roster to look at the future and evaluate the trades…not because they will all play in the NHL this season.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Faber, Brock3$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fiala, Kevin5$7,000,000
Kaprizov, Kirill4$8,500,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Fiala, Kevin
2.
MIN
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Thomas, Akil
  3. Faber, Brock [Reserve List]
LAK
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill
  2. Greenway, Jordan
Buyouts
  • Zach Parise: $2,371,794
  • Ryan Suter: $2,371,794
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
MIN
CAR
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2024
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$64,974,422$0$3,132,500$16,525,578
Left WingCenterRight Wing
LAK
Turcotte, Alex
$894,167
C
RFA - 3
MIN
Rossi, Marco
$894,167
C
RFA - 3
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MIN
Boldy, Matthew
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
LAK
Thomas, Akil
$795,000
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Sturm, Nico
$725,000
C
UFA - 1
CAR
Drury, Jack
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
MIN
Rask, Victor
$4,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
MIN
Goligoski, Alex
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
$725,000
G
RFA - 1
MIN
Kulikov, Dmitry
$2,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Faber, Brock
$900,000
RD
RFA
MIN
Merrill, Jon
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 9 at 12:03 p.m.
#1
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Nah, Kings are good, they can't even afford Kaprizov this season.
Aug. 9 at 12:07 p.m.
#2
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Kaprizov isn't the reason, it's his agent as Russo has stated. If not for agent deal would be done

- why are we Minnesota always wanting the worst? The idea of rebuilding isn't happening with Jared spurgeon and jonas brodin and Marcus foligno contract along with Joel Eriksson Ek, etc... let's stop panicking
Aug. 9 at 12:14 p.m.
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MNBassman
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Quoting: Amakoue
Kaprizov isn't the reason, it's his agent as Russo has stated. If not for agent deal would be done

- why are we Minnesota always wanting the worst? The idea of rebuilding isn't happening with Jared spurgeon and jonas brodin and Marcus foligno contract along with Joel Eriksson Ek, etc... let's stop panicking


This has nothing to do with panic, but everything to do with being realistic about the Wild’s next 4 years.
Aug. 9 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Amakoue
Kaprizov isn't the reason, it's his agent as Russo has stated. If not for agent deal would be done

- why are we Minnesota always wanting the worst? The idea of rebuilding isn't happening with Jared spurgeon and jonas brodin and Marcus foligno contract along with Joel Eriksson Ek, etc... let's stop panicking


It’s all hypothetical here.

IF Kaprizov will only sign a 3 year deal, it’s unlikely we would pay market for him when his next deal comes. The best case for the Wild would be to move him for futures.

IF Fiala doesn’t come off his perch, it’s pretty likely he’ll get moved.

Those 2 guys don’t make us a cup contender and getting through the buyouts with young high end talent ready to go when we have cap space again is a very measured approach.

And last year is not a good benchmark to use. We will be in a much stronger division and there is a 50/50 chance we make the playoffs with or without Kap and/or Fiala.
Aug. 9 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
This has nothing to do with panic, but everything to do with being realistic about the Wild’s next 4 years.


There is being realistic than also respectfully seeing things through a,fans eye , and not a front office eye. The Jared spurgeon contract, jonas brodin contract. Etc isn't going to make rebuilding especially several years rebuilding happen, or realistic
Aug. 9 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Amakoue
There is being realistic than also respectfully seeing things through a,fans eye , and not a front office eye. The Jared spurgeon contract, jonas brodin contract. Etc isn't going to make rebuilding especially several years rebuilding happen, or realistic


Both Spurgeon and Brodin have the term to survive a rebuild, so I don’t see what their contracts have to do with tanking. I’d actually love to move Spurgeon in 3-4 years of possible, but that’s beside the point.

You can still rebuild with those contracts on the books.
Aug. 9 at 12:33 p.m.
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This is me splitting hairs a bit, but I would like us to do better than Drury for a prospect in a Fiala trade. I think you’d have enough suitors where you could get someone a little more surefire.
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Aug. 9 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Amakoue
There is being realistic than also respectfully seeing things through a,fans eye , and not a front office eye. The Jared spurgeon contract, jonas brodin contract. Etc isn't going to make rebuilding especially several years rebuilding happen, or realistic


Regarding those D men, they play games that age well. That means they will be productive in some way while the younger guys start to take over. And I think they will actually make it easier for young guys to develop given how good they are.

I see your point about being a fan and wanting things now, but I think most of us here see that we aren’t ready to go all in for 1 year. Yeah it stinks but there’s hope.
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Aug. 9 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
Both Spurgeon and Brodin have the term to survive a rebuild, so I don’t see what their contracts have to do with tanking. I’d actually love to move Spurgeon in 3-4 years of possible, but that’s beside the point.

You can still rebuild with those contracts on the books.


Let’s keep the Spurgeon slander for a much later ACGM. I will not stand for it.
Aug. 9 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: jnowariak
Let’s keep the Spurgeon slander for a much later ACGM. I will not stand for it.


Lol fair enough. I retract my comment on him.
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Aug. 9 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Amakoue
Kaprizov isn't the reason, it's his agent as Russo has stated. If not for agent deal would be done

- why are we Minnesota always wanting the worst? The idea of rebuilding isn't happening with Jared spurgeon and jonas brodin and Marcus foligno contract along with Joel Eriksson Ek, etc... let's stop panicking


Because the worst frequently happens to us smile
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Aug. 9 at 1:40 p.m.
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Lets Get Kraken
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I love fiala but if it means losing drury I would pass. Swap Drury with Suzuki and it would be a better deal.
Aug. 9 at 2:41 p.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
I love fiala but if it means losing drury I would pass. Swap Drury with Suzuki and it would be a better deal.


I'm tempted to go full Buffalo on you and tell you that I need Drury. Suzuki, and a first wink
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Aug. 9 at 4:07 p.m.
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Lets Get Kraken
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Fiala is good but he is not on Eichel’s level of talent and full of himself attitude. Would love to have fiala in a canes jersey still.
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