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Keeping Gourde at the expansion

Created by: lavsim96
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2021
Published: Aug. 9, 2021
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Re-doing the Seattle expansion draft, this is the deal i would have proposed Tampa.
Is it fair value?
Trades
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TBL
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (TBL)
CHI
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SEA
  1. Johnson, Tyler
Additional Details:
Kraken selects Johnson for the expansion
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TBL
    Expansion draft considerations (selecting Johnson)
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    Aug. 9, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.
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    You’d have to pay Seattle to take Johnson though. Gourde is better and Johnson is a cap dump
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.
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    Seattle made the right move. I don't know Chicago's logic in making the trade to with Tampa. Hawks might save actual $$$$ for part of Seabrook's uninsured LTIR (is there is one) and will use that saving to buyout out Johnson at some time. So Tampa won big, without having to give up Colton and Killorn. Besides Killorn's M NTC might have killed any trade.
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.
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    Add two firsts I think
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 5:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    You’d have to pay Seattle to take Johnson though. Gourde is better and Johnson is a cap dump


    Yea im giving them Killorn, Ross and prospect Thompson.
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: papishark
    Add two firsts I think


    two first?? Johnson was dumped for a second...Gourde as much as i like him would probably only fetch you a first from a top contending team like Vegas or Colorado.
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.
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    two first?? Johnson was dumped for a second...Gourde as much as i like him would probably only fetch you a first from a top contending team like Vegas or Colorado.


    Seattle was asking huge prices this is known. To trade their best center for a bottom line guy who’s a cap dump, I say atleast two firsts would be needed
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    Aug. 9, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: papishark
    Seattle was asking huge prices this is known. To trade their best center for a bottom line guy who’s a cap dump, I say atleast two firsts would be needed


    Yeah thats why Francis got nothing too Confused
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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    I genuinely think Stan believes Johnson can benefit CHI. His experience will be helpful tbf due to our younger forward corps and only if our cap becomes an issue will this be a poor deal. Seabs is still owed Bonus so your spot on that we saved some money in that regard, but I doubt Johnson will be dumped so quickly.
    Aug. 9, 2021 at 10:16 p.m.
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    Massive overpay JBB. Wasn't willing to pay A1&3 no chance he gets that friggin flerced
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 7:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Massive overpay JBB. Wasn't willing to pay A1&3 no chance he gets that friggin flerced


    You probably fail to realise that im picking Johnson at the expansion draft....
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 8:56 a.m.
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    No I don't . I understood completely but your giving Colton Killorn and Thompson to do so Massively stupid idea
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    No I don't . I understood completely but your giving Colton Killorn and Thompson to do so Massively stupid idea


    very good and solid argument, definetly going to take it in consideration LOLawesome face
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 10:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: lavsim96
    very good and solid argument, definetly going to take it in consideration LOLawesome face


    So gourde is worth Killorn, Colton and Thompson I am soooooo glad JBB did it his way
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    So gourde is worth Killorn, Colton and Thompson I am soooooo glad JBB did it his way


    so you really do fail to understand that in this scenario i am picking Johnson instead of Gourde in the expansion draft. and thats what that package is for.......flushed cheeks
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: lavsim96
    so you really do fail to understand that in this scenario i am picking Johnson instead of Gourde in the expansion draft. and thats what that package is for.......flushed cheeks


    No I understand the concept easily and JBB TELLS YOU TO F-OFF IF YOUR FRANCIS
    In your proposal you get Francis to take Johnson for Colton Killorn and Thompson. That's f***ing dumb instead of just letting Gourde go your just to pig headed to understand that's a REALY REALLY BAD DEAL
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    No I understand the concept easily and JBB TELLS YOU TO F-OFF IF YOUR FRANCIS
    In your proposal you get Francis to take Johnson for Colton Killorn and Thompson. That's f***ing dumb instead of just letting Gourde go. You're just to pig headed to understand that's a REALY REALLY BAD DEAL
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    No I understand the concept easily and JBB TELLS YOU TO F-OFF IF YOUR FRANCIS
    In your proposal you get Francis to take Johnson for Colton Killorn and Thompson. That's f***ing dumb instead of just letting Gourde go your just to pig headed to understand that's a REALY REALLY BAD DEAL


    Yes because clearly Gourde and a 2nd round pick is nowhere near the value of Killorn, Ross and Thompson.... now I TELL YOU TO F-OFF and make sure i wont take ur ****ty opinion in consideration tears of joy awesome face
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: lavsim96
    so you really do fail to understand that in this scenario i am picking Johnson instead of Gourde in the expansion draft. and thats what that package is for.......flushed cheeks


    So the difference from what it is now to what it would be TB would loose Killorn Colton Thompson and Chicago 2 with Seabrook for Gourde? All Seabrook is is cash in uninsured portion of the contract.so instead of loosing 1 asset in Gourde we loose 4 in Killorn Colton Thompson and Chicago 2
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:25 a.m.
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    Edited Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.
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    Yes because clearly Gourde and a 2nd round pick is nowhere near the value of Killorn, Ross and Thompson.... now I TELL YOU TO F-OFF and make sure i wont take ur ****ty opinion in consideration tears of joy awesome face


    You're clearly pretty dumb
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    So the difference from what it is now to what it would be TB would loose Killorn Colton Thompson and Chicago 2 with Seabrook for Gourde? All Seabrook is is cash in uninsured portion of the contract.so instead of loosing 1 asset in Gourde we loose 4 in Killorn Colton Thompson and Chicago 2


    OMG you are so dumb... you are KEEPING Gourde and the 2nd round pick given to CHI, that is TWO (2) T-W-O ASSETS KEPT. got it yet??

    Anyways your opinion is worthless you are too dumb to UNDERSTAND and construct a decent argument so CIAO
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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    OMG you are so dumb... you are KEEPING Gourde and the 2nd round pick given to CHI, that is TWO (2) T-W-O ASSETS KEPT. got it yet??

    Anyways your opinion is worthless you are too dumb to UNDERSTAND and construct a decent argument so CIAO


    Stop Moron JBB IS CLEARLY WAY SMARTER THAN YOU AS IS 95 % IF THE REST OF THE POPULATION
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Stop Moron JBB IS CLEARLY WAY SMARTER THAN YOU AS IS 95 % IF THE REST OF THE POPULATION


    tears of joy awesome face
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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    Here stupid giving up Gourde and not losing Killorn Colton and Thompson is the smart play even someone as mentally incompetent as yourself should understand that
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Here stupid giving up Gourde and not losing Killorn Colton and Thompson is the smart play even someone as mentally incompetent as yourself should understand that


    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/502736

    Your opinion is worthless i told youawesome face
    Aug. 10, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: lavsim96
    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/502736

    Your opinion is worthless i told youawesome face


    And Briesbois is a moron if he does that
     
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